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Old 07-27-2013, 10:37 AM
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Question Looking for a working bearded collie or bearded collie border collie mix breeder

Hi, I am in the market for a puppy and I am apparently wanting something that is hard to find. I would really like to get either a working-bred bearded collie (NOT a conformation show line) -OR- a bearded collie border collie cross. If it were a cross I would prefer the border collie to be working bred but would accept a show line beardie in the mix as I know working beardies are hard to find. I have found only one breeder in North America and would like to have some more options. Please send any ideas my way, thanks!
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Hi,
Contact Bearded Collie Club of America and ask them for references to working breeders. Or, click on the regional clubs page and contact them for the same info. That's where I'd start.
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There is a good breeder of working Beardies in NY (i think she's in NY)... she has Power Tripp Border Collies and Beardies. These are sport bred border collies and working bred/sporting beardies... SUPER cute beardies and I'm not a beardie person.

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Funny that I did not even think of asking for a working breeder list from the Beardie Club. I check out all beardie club websites but got nowhere. Thanks for the tip!

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PowerTripp is the one and only breeder I have found so far in North America. I do like her a lot but she only has a beardie litter every 3 years or so and from what I hear her next breeding or two will be producing pretty petite dogs with their new imported bitch (super fast and agile but on the smaller side) and I need to get a pup that will mature to be over 40 pounds for pulling.

Hence why I am searching for others (there has to be more, right??)
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So I emailed the Bearded Collie club and this is what I was told:

"If you need a dog to work your stock, you might want to try Border Collies."

.....ummm what was your breeds original purpose then?
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My previous dog was a bearded collie, although a couch potato one. I'm on a few groups still for them and they are always showing dogs with herding titles and having events.

I think the confusion may be that the bearded collies do herding in addition to confirmation, not in place of. The dogs would still be bred for show quality but have the herding instinct. In border collies, the working and show lines are different.

You can go to the BCCA website Bearded Collie Club of America and look at the bagpipes link. It shows dogs that are doing herding and you can look up some kennel names that way.
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Breeding for conformation and breeding for working is different. That is why there are "2 strains" of border collie. The conformation folks got a hold of the border collie and are completely diluting it's drive and work-ability. Yes, they can still herd but watch a conformation bred border collie go against a working bred border and you will most definitely be able to see who was bred for looks and who was bred for working. Luckily for the border collie, there are a lot of people set on maintaining the original breed.

The bearded collie was not so lucky and has been horribly diluted and changed to conformation standards. The excessively long coat is one change that has happened with the shift in breeding purpose. That coat would be a huge hindrance in the field and most working beardies tend to have more of a med-long coat that is easier to manage. There are a lot of shepherd in England trying to revive the working bearded collie and Power Tripp is a breeder in the USA that is doing the same. Introducing some working border collie in the bearded collie gene pool is helping to bring the breed back to it's original purpose.

I am sure conformation bred beardies are lovely dogs and great pets but I am looking for a different dog than that, I want the beardie in his true form, bred for his mind and not watered down from years of confirmation breeding.
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Not to mention that I emailed the BCCA- Bearded Collie Club of America and was told that if I want a dog to work stock I should get a border collie. Obviously working ability is NOT something they strive for or hold in high esteem.
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Have you contacted Kim of Power Tripp? I bet she would be MORE than happy to point you in the direction of other working beardie breeders if any exist. that world is small. She's super nice!

Are you needing them for stock work or sport/performance sports? There are actually 3 splits in the BC world nowadays--show collies, herding border collies, and sporting lines (agility, flyball, etc)... and if you are looking for just workability/drive out of the context of stock, you may be able to find sporting beardie breeders. I know a few beardies who compete in pretty high levels of canine disc and agility
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