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Old 04-14-2016, 06:47 AM
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Lookin for food "always"

Hi guys. My girl köfte is 4.5 months old she was a pariah dog. I adopt her 3 months ago. She is eating acana lamb&okanagan apple. Also i give light cheese and yogurt also some vegetables.

I searched Turkish forums but could not find the answer . My dog wants to eat food constantly in street. This foods are bad for her like paper, chicken bone, cat foods...
When I put dog food on the ground in house and say no then she is waiting and doesn't eat but she keeps eating or crying for food outside.

How can i fix the problem ?

P.s: i dont want to use shock leash or training leash.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:18 AM
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Investigate leave it training. There are many approaches but most follow a similar theme. My preference is using lures which the dog will never have, so I never use food items except for the reward. Many protocols use food as the lure however.
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Pariah dog, had to look that one up...

So for clarification, she does eat her food in the house, but still wants to eat everything in sight when she's outside?
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Investigate leave it training. There are many approaches but most follow a similar theme. My preference is using lures which the dog will never have, so I never use food items except for the reward. Many protocols use food as the lure however.
I use lures for reward. When I said no she knows that she has to leave it and then I give her lures but if there are no lures she keeps eating.

Usually she eats small pieces so no time to say leave it. I have to teach her not to eat outside.
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Pariah dog, had to look that one up...

So for clarification, she does eat her food in the house, but still wants to eat everything in sight when she's outside?
Yes that's true. She acts like she is always hungry. Also I feed her more then normal.
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Maybe try walking her when she's hungry, and bring her meal with you. Have it in a bag on your hip, feed her as you're going to keep her distracted.

From reading up on Pariah, scavenger, opportunistic, eat when you can mentality... You're going to try to make the dog understand that she doesn't need to scavenge.

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Old 04-14-2016, 10:24 AM
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Welcome to the forum!

Good news is that this issue is pretty common and can be worked on and addressed!

First half of the solution for now is managing/supervising in some way to help prevent your dog from eating these things. It might mean a leash for the time being. Not used for leash pops or corrections though. Just to keep your dog with you so she cannot run off and find these tasty things.

Ditto training ''leave it.''
I start sitting with food in hand, and back of hand glued to my knee. I ignore any licking, pawing, and other attempts to get the food. When my dog makes the choice to back off I open my hand. If my dog tries to steal the food, fist closes and I wait. If my dog remains polite, I pick up a treat with my free hand and give it to my dog. I continue to reward as long as my dog is polite. Fist closes any time my dog gets pushy and tries to take a treat.

Then I work on this is other contexts...
Distractions on tables and chairs, plate or bowl in my lap, distraction on floor, etc.
Again covering if the dog tries to steal and uncover and then reward if polite. If the item is on the floor, I cove with my foot.

I also work with different distractions...
Different foods, toys, paper, bags, etc. If a non-food item I reward most of the time with treats or a toy from my pocket.

Not matter what the distraction is, I strive to make sure my dogs never actually get it on their own. If I want them to have it, I pick it up and give it to them.
There are some other drop or leave it games and methods in this thread including videos. The "It's yer choice" video shows what I described above and some some of the different ways you can progress.
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...lmness-168218/

Also agree with working on attention and walking with you will help a ton. Recall away from distractions as well! There are many methods to teach these skills. Lots in these threads.
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...-walking-1683/
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...s/recall-9595/
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Maybe try walking her when she's hungry, and bring her meal with you. Have it in a bag on your hip, feed her as you're going to keep her distracted.

From reading up on Pariah, scavenger, opportunistic, eat when you can mentality... You're going to try to make the dog understand that she doesn't need to scavenge.
"eat when you can" is my girl
Thats sounds good. I can try it but I dont want her to think "outside = food", I want "Outside = toilet and walking"
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"eat when you can" is my girl
Thats sounds good. I can try it but I dont want her to think "outside = food", I want "Outside = toilet and walking"
It's not a permanent solution, the dog needs to understand that you are the giver of food, that she doesn't need to scavenge to eat. Don't know if it'll work or not but...
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I use lures for reward. When I said no she knows that she has to leave it and then I give her lures but if there are no lures she keeps eating.

Usually she eats small pieces so no time to say leave it. I have to teach her not to eat outside.
Here's the problem with that type of training: Imagine you have a dog that eats its own crap or might chew on an electrical cord in the house or raid the garbage can or eat toxic mushrooms outside. These are items which you will never ever allow the dog to take possession of because of simple common sense. IMO, if you use a food treat as the lure and then reward the dog with the actual food treat lure, you are training the dog that it is alright at one point or another to reward itself with the lure. So, what happens when you are not in attendance to monitor the situation? Most likely the dog will eat the lure since you rewarded with the lure. Rewarding with the lure is more directed at impulse control as you make the dog wait until you allow the dog to take possession or eat the lure per your release. Impulse control and leave it training have a distinct difference and the two should never be compromised. Leave it training means the dog will NEVER take possession of the lure whereas impulse control training means the dog ultimately will take possession of the bait or lure.
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