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Old 09-28-2010, 09:12 PM
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Althea, I am very glad that things are going well with the house training! And I hope Loeki continues to do well!
He is still very young, so I bet the normal puppy issues (nipping, chewing, etc.) are yet to come. So do not get frustrated if they do appear in a few weeks.
There is a ton of onfo here and we are always willing to help!
Also, like others have said, a vet visit is extremely important. I always take any new dog to the vet within a week (preferably the first 3-4 days) after coming home. Honestly it is the best way to be sure that your pup came to you without any heath issues. I know you recieved a heath certificate from a prior vet visit, but a lot can happen in a short period of time, especially with such a young pup! Without that vet check, the breeder would easily be able to argue that your puppy contracted a disease after you took him home.


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In any case, I can't quite figure out the recommendations, that seem to range from 7 weeks to 12 weeks for adoption. Maybe it all depends on the breed and individual?
10-12 weeks is always what I have heard from responsible breeders.
IME BYB's want the pups to go sooner (7-8 weeks- as soon as they can eat solid food!).
And I think it varies widely in shelters, with busier, packed shelters adopting pups out sooner.
Also something to consider is the age pups may legally be seperated from mom... Here it is 7 weeks, but many other places in the US it is 8 weeks. (I do not say that to offend or upset anyone. It's just something that many people do not consider before taking a very young puppy home.)

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That IS truly impressive! It usually takes a couple of weeks at least, until they can actually tell you they need out. Your boy is very smart! Hey, he's a border collie, no wonder! No worries if he has some confusion some time about it though... might happen.

You are going to have a blast with this little fella! Sounds like he is starting to figure things out around his new home.

Hope you get a good night's sleep. The best thing you can do for him, is to take care of yourself, so you maintain your patience and sense of wonder about all this. Parenting is a marathon... gotta pace yourself!

I hope I have a good time with him, I want him to be a good companion for me. I suffer from depression, and they got him for me to be therapeutic. So far it's helping so much. There's nothing better then waking up to a puppy who crawled out of his bed at night and into your arms. It warmed my heart.

I hope I get good sleep, but I doubt I'll be able to stay home again tomorrow. Well, I can hope. Such a horrible headache, and I can barely eat. x.x
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Althea, I am very glad that things are going well with the house training! And I hope Loeki continues to do well!
He is still very young, so I bet the normal puppy issues (nipping, chewing, etc.) are yet to come. So do not get frustrated if they do appear in a few weeks.
There is a ton of onfo here and we are always willing to help!
Also, like others have said, a vet visit is extremely important. I always take any new dog to the vet within a week (preferably the first 3-4 days) after coming home. Honestly it is the best way to be sure that your pup came to you without any heath issues. Without that vet check, the breeder would easily be able to argue that your puppy contracted a disease after you took him home.


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In any case, I can't quite figure out the recommendations, that seem to range from 7 weeks to 12 weeks for adoption. Maybe it all depends on the breed and individual?
10-12 weeks is always what I have heard from responsible breeders.
IME BYB's want the pups to go sooner (7-8 weeks- as soon as they can eat solid food!).
And I think it varies widely in shelters, with busier, packed shelters adopting pups out sooner.
Also something to consider is the age pups may legally be seperated from mom... Here it is 7 weeks, but many other places in the US it is 8 weeks. (I do not say that to offend or upset anyone. It's just something that many people do not consider before taking a very young puppy home.)
Yes, they were BYB's, sadly. I don't know the circumstances (If it was accidental, as the dogs are working dogs and live outside, or if it was intended to make money) but the lady I bought him from had a young daughter and seemed very honest.

I will talk to my mom about taking him to the vet, if anything, I'll spend my last 50$ if it is that much on the checkup.

And yeah, he does chew a lot. A lot. He has about 15 different toys and he's always chewing on them. Either that, or he'll chew on my rugs, my bed, my blanket, HIS bed, my foot, my hand, or when he can get his mouth on it- my hair. I've been redirecting most of his mouthing to his toy, which he's been taking to well.

Nipping, I've seen none of yet. When he wants my attention or to play, he bonks his nose on me. And he didn't nip my niece or nephew either when they had their hands near his mouth.

My family have issues listening to my guidance, which I don't like. I told them he's not supposed to be doing stairs yet, and that he's not supposed to have long walks but they say I'm babying him. What should I tell them? I'm the kid, they don't listen to me. I've already explained that the growth plates shouldn't be stressed in that way (They're big steps, too. Outdoors to our deck) and they're joints are still just developing.
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its tough...they are the adults you are the child. All you can do is state the facts and hope they listen. If they don't, I don't really have any extra advice. Hopefully they will listen.
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-nod- Well, they all agree he's my dog. I do make the decisions. I just wish they'd stop insulting me for 'babying' him. Is it so bad that I don't want a breed prone to hip dysplasia walking up and down big stairs at 7 weeks? jeesh.
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-nod- Well, they all agree he's my dog. I do make the decisions. I just wish they'd stop insulting me for 'babying' him. Is it so bad that I don't want a breed prone to hip dysplasia walking up and down big stairs at 7 weeks? jeesh.
He IS a baby right now! Stick to your principles. Do what you need to do for him quietly to minimize conflict with the adults. You are the one who has done the research and he's your dog. (lucky dog!)

Parents can be such a pain in the patootie sometimes. They truly mean well, but they get all hung up on stuff. It seems there is a virus they get upon having a child that sometimes nullifies common sense and blinds them to reality.

Anyway, the little guy will be a "toddler" soon, then a little boy. They'll stop complaining about you babying him, and start complaining about him being noisy or rambunctious. Get ready!

Oh, and about the vet visit... if there's nothing wrong with him, it should only cost what ever their flat fee is for an "office call." That will vary according to where you live. For our vet its 30 dollars...
Later you'll have to pay for his next vaccination too, along with another office call, though so be braced...

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Yeah, but our office call is very expensive. Around 40-50 last time I took my cat in.

And I'm completely prepared. I get paid again next month before his vaccinations, so I have no problem with that. It's THIS month thats the problem, haha. (We spent waaay too much on his toys )

He's already getting rambunctious and whiny. He let me have an hours sleep before waking me to go potty and whining for the next hour because he wanted to play (Really need a crate, because I can't just ignore him when he whines and wait for him to sleep, or he'll jump off my bed by himself and start chewing on my carpet or my cords. So I have to play with him or keep putting him back in his bed when he gets out for half an hour. Then he had to pee a few hours later.

Ahh, the joys of parenthood. Told my mom I wanted to stay home again today, and she asked if I was asking for maternity leave :P

Time for more sleep, if he'll let me.
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So your parents are making you pay for everything? They won't help you at all?
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Yeah, but our office call is very expensive. Around 40-50 last time I took my cat in.

And I'm completely prepared. I get paid again next month before his vaccinations, so I have no problem with that. It's THIS month thats the problem, haha. (We spent waaay too much on his toys )

He's already getting rambunctious and whiny. He let me have an hours sleep before waking me to go potty and whining for the next hour because he wanted to play (Really need a crate, because I can't just ignore him when he whines and wait for him to sleep, or he'll jump off my bed by himself and start chewing on my carpet or my cords. So I have to play with him or keep putting him back in his bed when he gets out for half an hour. Then he had to pee a few hours later.

Ahh, the joys of parenthood. Told my mom I wanted to stay home again today, and she asked if I was asking for maternity leave :P

Time for more sleep, if he'll let me.
Maybe your Mom is going to be easier to convince to let you stay home sometimes... after all, if you aren't home, someone else has to tend the the little guy!

So when does the crate arrive? You are doing amazing taking care of him without a crate. I know folks raised puppies "in the old days" without crates, but they really are a terrific invention and make puppy care a LOT easier!

I'm so glad he's all perked up and making puppy havoc. Its when they are too easy that I worry!

Thanks for the updates!
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My mom is willing to help out, but if I want anything 'extra' that she doesn't think we need, I need to pay. So that's vet checks, new food (She bought him Ben.. something. But it's VERY low quality), a crate (As she considers it not necessary since she raised her puppies without one) and anything else that makes it easier. Like a puppy poo scooper thing. We use bags. /grimace.

Well I'm glad my mom DID let me stay home, because I'm throwing up now. Yuck. I feel really bad for Loeki, I had to pawn him off on my sister today so I could get more then an hour of sleep. Then she watched him while I took a hot bath, and now he's whimpering in my room while I'm in the bathroom waiting for the next wave of puke. He's not getting any attention today from me.

We still need to buy the crate. She doesn't consider it necessary because he's doing fine without it, and I can't afford it right now.

Yeah, I was worried too when he first got here. Everything I read about puppies was wrong, he slept ALL day and never even stood up! I miss it, haha.
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