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Old 09-28-2010, 01:49 PM
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Oh, yeah. we just walked half way down the alley and back. I just didn't know what else he wanted. He likes it better outside, but was still whimpering when he was there. He loved it, was running ahead of me.

No, none of those. He looks healthy to me.. He hasn't been whining for a bit. And yes, when he whined I was with him. I was so exhausted I laid down on the floor with him and just moved my arm around holding a toy so he played a bit. When he chews on my fingers he seems to get better, but will still whine very quietly between nibbles. Maybe next time I can get a video and show you if it happens again. I don't know what he wants, and I want to make him comfortable.
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Oh, yeah. we just walked half way down the alley and back. I just didn't know what else he wanted. He likes it better outside, but was still whimpering when he was there. He loved it, was running ahead of me.

No, none of those. He looks healthy to me.. He hasn't been whining for a bit. And yes, when he whined I was with him. I was so exhausted I laid down on the floor with him and just moved my arm around holding a toy so he played a bit. When he chews on my fingers he seems to get better, but will still whine very quietly between nibbles. Maybe next time I can get a video and show you if it happens again. I don't know what he wants, and I want to make him comfortable.
OK, I am a bit more reassured! If he does not have any of those symptoms, and you think he appears healthy in all respects, energy and playfulness being a key indicator, maybe its not time to panic yet! I do worry so much about the little ones, and its hard to know exactly without seeing him, what could be going on. He is very young and at that age they can get sick in a matter of hours...
Yes, videos of anything unusual you want people to look at, would be extremely helpful.

Yes, you should be exhausted by now! Its about like having a human infant for a while! Hang in there! Time to start taking naps when he naps, just like new baby moms do! When does the crate get here? You can sleep better with him in a crate, as you won't have to get up until he cries to go pee, which should only be once or twice in the night, rather than every 2 hours.... still tiring but not quite so much.

So what I'm hearing from you is that currently he seems normal? Perhaps he had a tummy ache? Was his poo pretty firm, like he had been constipated? That might give him a belly ache. Also, if he ate a whole bunch more than normal at once, trying to make up for being a bit hungry earlier, its possible that could have made him uncomfortable.

I think your instincts are good... that is if you cannot figure out what's bothering him, that is indeed reason to be concerned. Puppies can be noisy often, but usually its possible to sooth them...
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His poo was soft (And smelled gross. I got to get used to cleaning dog poo again, yuck)

It's hard to tell how he's been today. This morning was when all the whining happened, and I had to leave before he even stopped whining to go to a doctor's appointment. My sister looked after him, and she said he was fine and didn't whine.. but I don't really believe her. He had a tiny accident on my bed, and he whines to me when he wants out. I don't believe he'd pee there without trying to alert someone.

I got home just a few hours ago, and the SECOND I came through my bedroom door he started whining non-stop though he was quiet before. Then I just petted him for a minute and he went to sleep. He's been sleeping ever since.

EDIT: Yeah, I think I'm going to nap for a bit now lol.
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His poo was soft (And smelled gross. I got to get used to cleaning dog poo again, yuck)

It's hard to tell how he's been today. This morning was when all the whining happened, and I had to leave before he even stopped whining to go to a doctor's appointment. My sister looked after him, and she said he was fine and didn't whine.. but I don't really believe her. He had a tiny accident on my bed, and he whines to me when he wants out. I don't believe he'd pee there without trying to alert someone.

I got home just a few hours ago, and the SECOND I came through my bedroom door he started whining non-stop though he was quiet before. Then I just petted him for a minute and he went to sleep. He's been sleeping ever since.

EDIT: Yeah, I think I'm going to nap for a bit now lol.
Sounds like the whining when you came home from school was just that he was extremely relieved/happy to see you and he was expressing that... and now, with you home, making him feel safe (he's obviously very bonded to you already) he could go to sleep.

From his perspective, his whole world has been shifted when he left his litter/mom. He's going to be upset now when he does not have you around, and by around... from a puppy's point of view that might even be that you have to be close enough to touch, or he'll feel anxious. Just letting him sit on your lap and chew a toy is really good, and if that calms him, you have the ticket.

Most of our puppies would get very distressed and noisy when separated from us, (at this age), so get ready for some loudness in those circumstances.

BTW, there is a delightful young lady about your age on this forum. Her name is "Blue Pup". You two might enjoy "talking". I think she also has raised a puppy while also being a high school student. Maybe she has some pointers on how to juggle school/homework/puppy.

I'm a high school teacher, so I really enjoy people your age!!! Thanks so much for including me in your puppy adventures.
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Yes, it sounds like he saw a vet a few days before Althea got him. She has the paper documenting his good health. She has only had him 1.5 days...

As we all know, puppies can get sick in a hurry, which is why every time something seems a little off, from what Alethea says, I start to panic a little! So far, her further explanations have been reassuring... but I agree, I would love to see this baby get started with their own regular vet soon! Earlier I mentioned the "rule of thumb" that a new puppy goes to the new owner's vet with 3 days....

Gosh, I worry about these little ones so much, even when they are not mine! ;-)

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Yes, I have the vet report and he has a clean bill of health. We don't have a regular vet yet, but he needs another shot soon anyways, so we'll take him then. (Beginning of october)
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Sounds like the whining when you came home from school was just that he was extremely relieved/happy to see you and he was expressing that... and now, with you home, making him feel safe (he's obviously very bonded to you already) he could go to sleep.
And now he's awake and won't let me have another second of sleep, haha. "Play with me, mom." He's saying. So we're playing between paragraphs I type.

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From his perspective, his whole world has been shifted when he left his litter/mom. He's going to be upset now when he does not have you around, and by around... from a puppy's point of view that might even be that you have to be close enough to touch, or he'll feel anxious. Just letting him sit on your lap and chew a toy is really good, and if that calms him, you have the ticket.
I'm literally half a foot from him. he's still whining, and loudly. He won't play with his toys alone, he needs me playing too. Oh well. Now he's laying down, looking me in the eye, and I think we're both a little frustrated with the lack of communication.

went outside with him. Played for a good hour. He's STILL whining. I fed and watered him. Put him in his bed. Maybe he'll go for a nap and I can again too lol

I'll definately talk to Blue Pup if I see her around. ^^
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Well, it looks like you have your work cut out for you with a high energy Border Collie who wants to interact with you all the time! (they say this breed needs a full time job!) He's probably still really missing his sibs too. He may be coming out of his shell a little, and be telling you more. Its great he looks you right in the eye. That's a sign of confidence and that he feels comfortable with you.

Remember a day ago, you were worried because he was so sleepy! One thing is for sure with puppies, they change and grow each day, getting more and more active!

Best wishes, and hope you can get some rest! Puppies are a full time job for these first few weeks. ;-) (but a really FUN job!)
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Oh yes, I'm very excited. I can't wait till I can do more with him. Take him to the park, do agility, etc. But that'll come much later. Right now all I can really do is sit in my backyard and wrestle with him

Another problem I've been having is that he's not really responding well to training (not hardcore training, ha. I'm just trying to teach him click=treat right now) He'll eat the first few bites, and then he'll start whimpering and turn away. Maybe he doesn't like the food..? I really hope he's food-motivated later.. I don't know how to train a non-food motivated dog.

I'm trying to get some rest, but the boy won't let me haha. Sucks being sick and having a demanding puppy. I'm exhausted, but he wont sleeeeep xD
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This is the 6 week old pup right? I wonder if this behavior is bc he was taken from mom too soon
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