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Old 01-18-2009, 08:23 PM
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OK now after almost over the hurdle of my pup sleeping through the night, (which he is doing better more every night) when he comes out to play, he likes to bite the hands that play with him. I mean, if we have a toy, he will bite the toy, then go further as to bite our hand. (we, as in me and my 2 children) We have yelped like a puppy, which works sometimes, said ouch and gave him a toy. even saying "no" seems to make him growl a bit and wag his tail, like it is a game. when we yelp, we wait for him to back away, but it doesn't last long. He is back at it again searching for the hands. My 12 yr old likes to lie on the floor to play with him, but Tyson, (the puppy), nips him in the face. Any suggestions on what to do? and here is an updated pic of the little stinker.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:48 PM
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OMG! He's sassy in those pics!

Well, I myself would avoid the word "no". This word is a very common word we say and "no" can mean so many things to him. No dont do this....no don't do that...
What I would try is this. When you play and he gets your hands say " Tyson off", stop playing and turn your back on him. You've just socially (pack wise) shut him out and also deprived him of his game. Like wise, when your son is playing and he starts to nip him, your son says "Tyson off", stops playing and turns his back. End of game. Tyson will lern that "off" means no negitive (on his part) physical contact ie nipping, nawing, biting or eventually jumping on you.
When you play with him, set the tone of play. As long as he is being gentle and his teeth stay off you and in his mouth and on his toy, then the play contunes. If he starts to get aggressive, then all play stops. He'll learn pretty quick that he gets to play longer by being gentle.
Im just curious, do you play a lot of tug games with him?
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well honestly, we have, but noticed him get more aggressive. he would growl and clamp his mouth shut on the toy. we didn't pull back, just let him pull, so it didn't hurt his teeth. Now, we have avoided doing it due to his growling. He barks and tries to get the attention when we won't give him a toy, also. I won't give him the toy until he is quiet, and not demanding it. He tries to run the playtime, yes, but we really try to let him know who is boss. I'm rambling, but yes, we used to play tug with him, but not anymore.
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You need to play a mommy dog and correct the pup by quickly grabbing by the ear and twisting with an audible "EEEHH" to illicit a yelp back from the pup each and every time it bites. After some repetition..... it will get the hint. Passive methods aside for the moment. If they aren't working then the dog isn't getting it. You need to be the passive aggressive parent and correct with a false bite when the pup gets out of hand. This will usually illicit a lick response instinctively from the pup looking to get back in your good graces which should be rewarded with praise. Then if it nips again .... twist that ear again along with the audible.

Works like a charm.
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Definitely a cutie what a look in that one photo.

You want to get that under control and with the proper discipline you can...as suggested if the completely passive measure aren't;t working than you will need to move onto the manners that would be used by it's mama dog.

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It has been working! Finally!! He is really responding to it. Sometimes he gets a little excited, and tries to nip, but with a little ehhh, he stops and licks where he wanted to bite. It is cute to see. What a lively little guy he is. Yea, he is growing so fast, Adrian. I see more and more boxer coming out of him. Thanks for the advice, but any other advice is great also. here is an updated pic of him. 7 weeks old today, and 8 lbs.
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There are a few things I say to my pups about Biting, “No Biting” and “What are you doing?” “release”

The first is straight forward, the pup learns that biting is not acceptable; mine likes to bite when I pet him of all times.

What are you doing is a catch all phrase, he will back up a bit, and think of what he is doing and why it is not wanted.

Dogs have a fairly large vocabulary, but you need to teach them. Using the same tone and phrase when you expect a result from him will teach him what you mean for him to understand.

NO / stop, biting, very straight forward. I use this for when he bites me, his puppy bed, his mate.. Anytime he bites anything, this is the phrase I use. To start I would pick him by the scruff of the neck like a mother would do, and stuff a toy in his mouth, then say Toy!

Never yelling, you should be able to converse with the pup without yelling.
Ouch! Is very well understood by dogs, you will find in time, the pup will continue to try and bite and even just mouth your hand.. Mine acts like he is yawning and finishes with his mouth wrapped around my arm. You will also find the pup will turn a bit to a friendly nibble… Al normal behavior, this is how dogs learn their strength and how to control it.

Your dog will learn all about his strength by doing things like biting, jumping around and running. This is part of his apprentice life. Like a teen, he will test you to see just how far you will go before he has gone too far.

Just like a young teen, if you pay attention to him the right way, he will prefer to learn from you, then to attempt things on his own.

Poutine is but a Papillon you might say, but I have seen him rip through tennis balls and leather bones pretty fast. By playing with Ping pong balls and putting them away when we are finished, I have shown him that not destroying a toy will allow him to play with it much longer, broken ping pong balls get thrown away and I make sure he sees them go away.

We are at the point now where I can lob a ping pong ball and play for 20 to 30 minutes, and then put it away ready for next time. If he wanted to right now, he could crush it like an egg. When playing Fetch, the word Release is used a lot.
You will need to spend time with the pup and the kids to be sure the same words and tone is used all the time. Make it a pleasant thing so he wants to learn.
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