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Old 09-23-2011, 11:22 AM
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leash and hand nipping

Hello everyone. I have an almost 8 month old golden retreiver. Very sweet, obediant most of the time. Just recently she started to bite the leash and our hands when we leash and unleash her and grabsthe leash in tug of war game when walked. At first I thought the hand nipping was her not wanting to be leashed, since we are giving her more off leash time since he recall reliability is improving greatly. (Last week she chose to return on on first comand instead of chase a deer). Then she started nipping when we unleash her. I'm not sure if she is playing or is doing this for some other reason. What I was considering doing was spraying apple bitter on my hands and leash. But I am afraid if she smells it on her leash and my hands, then she will run away when leashed. I have went back to square one positive reinforcement. Lots of treats when leashed. It did seem to help but when I slowly take the treats out of the picture I get nightmare nipping attack. She has never broke the skin, but sometimes it hurts. What should I do?
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Try clicker training with kikopup it works.
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"Try clicker training with kikopup it works"

This is what I have been doing. My challange is getting her to be good without the clicker and treats. If she sees the clicker and treat bag she is good as gold. If there is no clicker or treats she turns into a wild child. She is now conditioned to only behave when clicker is in hand, or she smells something good. She is fine with other commands and will work without the clicker for a pet on the head. I'm not sure how to phase out the clicker. My trainer suggested to treat without the clicker for a while using a verbal marker instead of the clicker. I have tried this, but it doesn't work for the nipping and leash tug of war. Maybe I am expecting too much from my pup. I just don't want to have a 5 yr old dog that will only behave if someone is holding a clicker. She picks things up very quickly. She has become bored with the basic commands so I changed it up. In less than 5 minutes she learned to walk backwards with both a hand motion and verbal back command and will do this without the clicker. I'm not sure why she has such a strong need to nip hands and leash.
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Once you have the desired behavior (sit, down etc.) rock solid and reliable in all circumstances and situations you can gradually phase out the clicker and the reward for that behavior. Then you and your dog can move on to learning your next trick!
You do not continue to click and treat for a learned behavior it actually devalues the click.
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The click is a whole other matter. First, to solve the beginner's anxiety, of course you don't have to click forever. The click is for teaching behaviors and cues. During the shaping process we gradually click and treat less often as we require more and longer episodes of behavior to earn a click. Then, once the learner knows what to do and when to do it, for many behaviors you don't need to click any more; a nod or a smile or a word can tell a dog he's doing fine.
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Thank You for your help. I do not click for the basic learned commands. I say or signal the comand and she obeys. The problem is getting the leash on and off. I signal sit she sits. (no click or treat) I go to leash or unleash and she rolls on her back and starts mouthing and nipping. She will drop it (my hand or leash) only to nip again. She will sit again without click or treat but as soon as I go for the leash she turns into mad dog. She will not leave it with my hand or leash. (only temporarily) but on a walk she will leave anything I ask her to. But if I have treat and a clicker she will let me leash and unleash no problem. I don't even need to click. She waits patiently anticipating a treat. I think she is just playing. She walks well on loose leash or in heel position and does the nipping when I try to unleash her as well. I am trying to phase out the clicker all together and this is my only hang up. I just wish I could get inside her head.
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Maybe keep the clicker for a while longer.

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Thank you for all your help. I am going to try and recondition her with the leash using with the clicker. I am just going to have to keep the clicker handy. I have done some researching and this is very common in Goldens. A phase they go through. I just have to be patient and let her grow up a little longer.
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