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Old 06-15-2012, 08:55 PM
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We have had this thing since she was 5 weeks old
This thing? That is sad... and 5 weeks old is way too young to leave mom, which in turn can lead to a lot of the problems you are having now.


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I can't believe there isn't some way that she can be punished for at least some of her actions. Seems like we as adults have allowed ourselves to just hope our pets (and for the most part children) turn out good on their own. Because lord knows we cannot so much as look at them sternly these days.
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Check, don't do anything except take care of the puppy.

Boy what a collasal mistake getting her was I guess.
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If I am expected to take her out every 30-60 mins and 15 mins after each meal and keep her on a leesh at all times when am I supposed to have time to do anything else?

With that schedule I almost would rather adopt a human baby.
and this comment. I think you had made it clear you are not up for caring for the pup. She left mom way too young. She now needs to learn bite inhibition, manners (through lots of training) and potty training. All of this takes patience. It is not too late to rehome the puppy, and it sounds like it may be the best thing for the pup and you.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:27 PM
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I really want to like her and really want this to work out. I guess I am feeling overwelmed when I am left home alone with her. I have expectations that aren't being met and that is killing me. I feel as if I am taking her out enough but being told I am not doing it enough .... on the other hand I also read that at 13 weeks their bladders are bigger so they can hold it longer ... which say I am taking her out to much. I am so confused.

But yeah the schedule outlined above is very demanding and leaves little to no time to do anything else.

I am trying to train her (this thing was used out of frustration and wrong) but frustrated bad.

I do sometimes feel rehoming may be best thing but GF will not allow it, and honestly I really don't want to for the most part.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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This thing? That is sad... and 5 weeks old is way too young to leave mom, which in turn can lead to a lot of the problems you are having now.




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and this comment. I think you had made it clear you are not up for caring for the pup. So because I am currently pretty frustrated I cannot care for her and therefore must get rid of her? I haven't abused or done anything more than raised my voice to her. She is very well cared for thank you very much. She left mom way too young. She was properly weened and it was like 5.5 weeks with all I have read as long as they are weened and eating solid food it is ok to remove them from mom. She now needs to learn bite inhibition, manners (through lots of training) and potty training. All of this takes patience. It is not too late to rehome the puppy, and it sounds like it may be the best thing for the pup and you.
While I sometimes feel this way more often then not I am a bit peeved but still want to keep her.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:23 PM
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The way you talk about her sounds like its too much for you to deal with. Being weaned does not mean anything...the puppy needs to learn things still from mom, so 8 weeks minimum is when a pup is ready to leave mom.

If you want to make this work then you need to do what has been listen which can be time consuming. this is what life is when you get a baby animal...
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:35 AM
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Oh Dear! I wake up to all this upset. Yes, puppies are a lot of work for the first few months. There is no way around that that I know of.

To Be Honest, it sounds like raising a puppy is not really what you expected at all. There is no shame in discovering this. It happens to so many people. Perhaps, for the puppy's sake, as well as your own, it would be better to find her another home? She is still young enough to be easily placed. If you wait to re-home her until she is a "teenager" (6 to 9 months) she will be a lot less desirable and harder to place. As hard as things are now, there are some harder or at least different and also challenging stages yet to come, before she settles into a more manageable adulthood.

Think about it. You have this little life who is depending on you. She is totally helpless to determine her own fate. Somehow, figure out how to make sure she has the chance at a good life. If that good life is with you, that's great, you are ready to make the commitment. If you are honestly not ready for that level of work, then do the best thing for her and find another home. Some family out there would love to have her. If you are going that route, do it next week. Don't wait as once she passes 3 or 4 months her chances diminish.

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Ok, sorry I asked for help and stated my frustration. I am taking alot what you have said to heart and refocusing my efforts.

I will NOT however be rehoming her. And I would like that suggestion to be removed from the table as what it is increasingly sounding like the only choice I have according to you people.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:19 AM
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Lets go a different route here. Tells us the things she does that make you happy. Some of the good things can help reduce the bad if used properly.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:45 AM
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Ok, sorry I asked for help and stated my frustration. I am taking alot what you have said to heart and refocusing my efforts.

I will NOT however be rehoming her. And I would like that suggestion to be removed from the table as what it is increasingly sounding like the only choice I have according to you people.
Its great that you are committed to keeping her.

So now you have loads of suggestions on how to work through all these troublesome puppy issues. The only thing I have to add is the thought that the more time you put in early on, the faster things get easier.

House training is the perfect example of that. It really only takes a couple of weeks to house train a puppy if you work at it very intensively based on the two important principles: PREVENTION of accidents through confinement/supervision, and REWARD for pottying outside with a treat given within 2 seconds of her action. One suggestion I have for folks is to "keep score" to measure your progress. Put a penny in a jar for each Rewarded success of potty outside. Take 5 pennies out of the jar for each Accident inside. Your goal is to save 2 to 3 dollars.

It takes that sort of number of repetitions for the puppy to get the HABIT of house training. (Where to pee is not a "revelation" or "understanding" for a puppy... it is a habit.) So you can see that if you work very diligently on this project for a couple of weeks, you'll get to your goal, but if you have a looser routine, with more accidents, the house training could drag on for weeks, because the "accidents" set you back so much. The 5 to 1 ratio is really useful as a measure for how it works in a little puppy's brain.

Hope some of that helps.
We really are on your side with all this, and are here to help!
We wish there were easier answers to puppy raising issues, but in fact they are just a darn lot of work for a while, just like human kids! But in the end, you have a lovely adult dog.

To the extent you can let go of your former expectations of how this was all going to go, I think that will help ease your mind. There is some saying out there a friend told me once about like this "The roots of all suffering is the difference between expectation and reality."

I have two dogs, neither of whom was what I was hoping for in many ways. Our male is reactive to other dogs and not comfortable with strangers. I cannot leave him with a dog sitter or in a kennel. He has such high prey drive there are times it is very problematic. For example, the other day the cats brought a live chipmunk into the house and in pursuit of the chipmunk, the dog totally destroyed a bookshelf, to the extent I had to rebuild it. Our female is also reactive to other dogs, and quite hyper and she also has some health issues. I had to get over the disappointment with each of them that they were not the friendly, relaxed, totally healthy setters I had, had for the last two dogs. Once I accepted them for who they are, and started to enjoy their positive traits, my life got a lot better.

Anyway, It is clear you have the best of intentions so I wish you the best as you raise this puppy. If you would like any book recommends just let us know.... if you are an avid reader.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:01 AM
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I'm curious as to why you got a puppy instead of a full grown housebroken adult from a shelter.
I understand the lack of sleep is daunting but punishing her will not make the process faster and will make her afraid of you. A few more months and you will be sleeping. Pups and kids, yeah, they are hard to raise when they are brand new.

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Old 06-16-2012, 10:11 AM
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I will NOT however be rehoming her.
I seriously applaud you for your commitment to a difficult situation you did not expect. That shows character.

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you people.
We come from all walks of life. We at times disagree vehemently and have totally different opinions sometimes on how to best deal with our dog challenges. The only thing that unites us is that we are committed to doing the best for our dogs. And it seems as if, after your commitment to do the same (see above) you are one of us
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