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Old 05-11-2010, 04:24 PM
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Are you sure you want to make that kind of a flight with a puppy? That is a long flight to keep a puppy in a kennel. We made a flight that kept out adult dogs in a kennel for 12 hours total and that was very hard on them. I cant imagine doing that to a puppy. It is hard to this day to get them into a kennel. You might create some trauma that could last a lifetime. I know you have given this a lot or thought but we have many great breeds in the US maybe your might rethink this.
We recently moved from California to England. Billy was in a crate for 15hrs - not something I would advise but I was not leaving him behind!! He has had no adverse reactions to his crate.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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I cannot read German but these pets look happy lol

Is this a common thing in Romania? To send strays and homeless pets to other countries for adoption? I ask because the ones you rescued are going to Germany. Is adoption in Romania few and far between? I hope this is considered staying on topic since it has to do with shipping dogs from one country to another and its in regard to the OP
There are only a handful of rescues focused upon Romanian strays and, yes, they do try to export the adoptable dogs to homes abroad. Part of this is because it is not Romanian custom to keep dogs as beloved house pets unless the dogs are small (pekingese, poodles, yorkies, etc. are common apartment dogs here). The rest--the medium to large sized dogs are often abandoned in the streets or tied up on very short chains in the yard. So, while many people love cute puppies, once they grow up, they'll most likely be left tied up or abandoned--thus perpetuating the stray dog problem. Also, people who DO keep larger dogs that are considered family members usually have purebred dogs that they had to buy from a breeder--not dogs that were rescued from the street.

Exporting dogs from Romania to Germany or other European countries is very easy and it's often just a roadtrip away. Of course, getting to the USA is a bit more complicated, but I'm assured it's done quite often without problems. Romania Animal Rescue (founded by an American) has its main focus on spaying/neutering strays in Romania...but they do adopt out dogs to the USA as well (especially special needs dogs).

The founder:
YouTube - Nancy Janes founder of Romanian Animal Rescue

Special needs Romanian stray now at home in Northern California:
YouTube - Meet Anna Marie

Looks like they're pretty happy and not one bit traumatized. I think, for them, the trip overseas was well worth it.

Okay, I'm going to leave it at that! Thanks for the responses, everyone. I think some dogs cope with travel better than others, just like some people are less nervous in airplanes than others! It is unfortunate when dogs have adverse reactions (of course it's never fun being pent-up for hours), but the vast majority bounce back quickly if everything went smoothly. A crate-trained adult dog, is after all, supposed to be able to "hold it" for 6-8 hours...so a couple more hours may lead to an accident or two, but probably not permanent emotional damage. Also, fortunately, the USA doesn't have quarantine requirements for imported dogs, except that dogs who've not had their rabies vaccines must be kept isolated at home until they get vaccinated and 30 days after that.

Still, regarding the pups I rescued, I decided they'd go to Germany because the trip is much shorter, much less expensive, and much less labor-intensive for the volunteers involved. Plus, they'll find great homes in Germany and the rescue organization will update me with their pictures as they grow up!

And, regarding the mioritic, I've decided to wait on that as well...for about a year. After seeing how it is to house two rambunctious puppies with a toddler, I've decided it's probably best my son matures a bit before welcoming a puppy (especially a large breed one) into the family. I was super excited about bringing a mioritic puppy home with me this time, but it'll have to wait a bit. I'm sure my patience will pay off in the long run, though Stick around and I'll post pictures of my mioritic puppy in 1-2 years

PS: 100,000 dogs is in reference to the number of strays in just one Romanian city (a small fraction the size of Los Angeles)--not nationwide.
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it is not Romanian custom to keep dogs as beloved house pets unless the dogs are small (pekingese, poodles, yorkies, etc. are common apartment dogs here). The rest--the medium to large sized dogs are often abandoned in the streets or tied up on very short chains in the yard. So, while many people love cute puppies, once they grow up, they'll most likely be left tied up or abandoned--thus perpetuating the stray dog problem. Also, people who DO keep larger dogs that are considered family members usually have purebred dogs that they had to buy from a breeder--not dogs that were rescued from the street.
As sad as this is, it is so interesting to learn something new! I have always wondered how different countries cultures effect the lives of pets. Its similar to NY it sounds, more apartment living?

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Exporting dogs from Romania to Germany or other European countries is very easy and it's often just a roadtrip away. Of course, getting to the USA is a bit more complicated, but I'm assured it's done quite often without problems.
I wish I had responded to this point sooner. I used to work for a vet who did a lot of health certificates for oversea travel/moves. I see absolutely no problem with shipping a dog over seas when someone is moving and as far as I remember all other countries require an auto 6 month (maybe less) quarantine due to rabies...I could be mistaken if it is ALL other countries or just some, but this has happened and nobody gave those people any problems about it not being right. That said, I see nothing wrong with shipping dogs from a country with a HUGE stray problem into other countries where their chance of getting adopted is increased. Yes dogs lose lives all over the world because of there being too much of a surplus of animals, but I dont think one is better than another. I adopted a dog from Mexico FYI

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Looks like they're pretty happy and not one bit traumatized. I think, for them, the trip overseas was well worth it.
Agreed. I think what people like you are doing is great.

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And, regarding the mioritic, I've decided to wait on that as well...for about a year. After seeing how it is to house two rambunctious puppies with a toddler, I've decided it's probably best my son matures a bit before welcoming a puppy (especially a large breed one) into the family. I was super excited about bringing a mioritic puppy home with me this time, but it'll have to wait a bit. I'm sure my patience will pay off in the long run, though Stick around and I'll post pictures of my mioritic puppy in 1-2 years
Sounds like you made a super smart decision. I decided to rescue animals galore lol so having a child in my case is not such a great idea and I am ok with that I have come to that conclusion at least for the time being. It takes a wonderful smart person to realize this kind of stuff. I wish you luck in the future with getting the dog and look forward to photos!
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