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Old 09-04-2013, 10:10 AM
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Raffles (4 months hound cross) has been here 4 days now and he's doing great - housetrained, will (most of the time) sit, come, get down, leave it, and he's beginning at last to learn that biting isn't very nice behaviour. We go out many times a day - he still hasn't had his second jabs so only on our property or up the lane. There are very few dogs round here.
He has the attention span of a widget so won't play with a toy for long, won't chase a ball, but likes tug and ripping up cardboard, mainly he prefers eating everything he shouldn't. Tug and cardboard both wind him up of course, and a plastic bottle even more. A pigs ear kept him amused for hours, but I don't want to give him one every day. I've bought a kong but I think he finds it too frustrating not being able to get the food out. He's very food motivated. Any ideas on how to wear him out enough for bedtime without getting him hyper?
He's been pretty good at sleeping overnight, but I'm just running out of ideas - I don't want to overdo the training sessions
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:53 AM
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It is impossible to tire out a puppy. They will learn to settle down eventually, but it takes time (i.e. growing up).

Have you tried bully sticks or antlers? Antlers in particular last much longer than pig ears. Some dogs ignore them, but others go *nuts*.

Where does he sleep? When Calypso was that age, I often found that if I left her out she could go on for hours, but if I put her in her crate (even if she was crazy wild right beforehand), she would crash pretty quickly.

And just--don't be discouraged if you see some backsliding on the no-biting business. It takes most dogs quite awhile to really learn that one.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:42 PM
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Thanks sundog I don't think we get antlers here (France). The local pet store has some enormous marrow bones but I think they'd be too big. I'm not sure what bully sticks are either.
He's sleeping in a crate, and sleeps there a lot during the day too, and he settles quite quickly - but, we've just come back from a 15 minute last walk before bedtime, and he's still hyper 3/4 hour later (and biting of course!). I'm not sure whether he's over tired or not tired lol . He's in his crate chewing now.
So, totally normal. I was just wondering if anyone had any ideas of more calming activities before bedtime, as a walk makes him drink a lot, and then he'll want to go out again in a couple of hours. Maybe I should take him for a long walk earlier and then just keep him awake until bedtime!
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Pretty sure that
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are bully sticks (link to French Amazon). "Bully stick" is the glorious re-naming of, um, a certain cow (bull) reproductive organ. :P They are expensive if your dog is a big chewer, but worth it. As far as antlers go, there are a couple of US/Canada sellers who are very popular with members here. You might see if one of them would ship trans-Atlantic.

Hyper and bite-y sounds very much like a dog who needs time to rest, even if s/he doesn't know it yet!
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Thanks for the tips, and I'll have a look for the bully sticks
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Thanks for the tips, and I'll have a look for the bully sticks
We bought theo this toy called "busy buddy" which is a puzzle toy for obtaining treats. You had mentioned raffles is frustrated by the kong, but sometimes frustration can turn into exhaustion. Theo gets his busy buddy toy when I either need to keep him busy, or we need to tire him out, so it's great about an hour before bedtime. He will get frustrated, run away from the toy, but then come back to it repeatedly. It tires him out pretty well.

Do you have room in your home to play fetch? That could be a nice tiring activity a few hours before bedtime. And sometimes, they just need to go to bed, no matter how wound up they are! Just like with humans, you could start giving cues: putting toys away, turning off lights/tv etc. which could signal bedtime is coming.

By the way, I love the name raffles! It's adorable.
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We bought theo this toy called "busy buddy" which is a puzzle toy for obtaining treats. You had mentioned raffles is frustrated by the kong, but sometimes frustration can turn into exhaustion. Theo gets his busy buddy toy when I either need to keep him busy, or we need to tire him out, so it's great about an hour before bedtime. He will get frustrated, run away from the toy, but then come back to it repeatedly. It tires him out pretty well.

Do you have room in your home to play fetch? That could be a nice tiring activity a few hours before bedtime. And sometimes, they just need to go to bed, no matter how wound up they are! Just like with humans, you could start giving cues: putting toys away, turning off lights/tv etc. which could signal bedtime is coming.

By the way, I love the name raffles! It's adorable.
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Thanks I think we've cracked it, for the moment at least - a bit more activity during the day, more naps, and no last long walk - just a sniff around, then sit quietly until he settles in his crate. I'll look up the busy buddy as nothing holds his attention for long. I bought a dental ball with sort of toothed slots in it and put some kibble in the slots, but he just gets the easy ones out then gives up. Folded cardboard and paper with kibble work quite well but a bit too easy.
I can't seem to get him interested in fetch at all but perhaps I haven't found the right way to go about it. My JRTs used to love chasing balls, but he's not so keen - maybe I'll have to pinch another of hubby's socks and put the ball in that.
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Cobber had no real interest in fetch for quite awhile. He'll be 6 mos in a few more days, and he's now playing fetch with me as long as we use a soft squeaky ball of some sort. The command "fetch" hasn't sunk in yet, so I just throw the ball and start clapping and calling him back like a lunatic once he runs after and gets it. Wears him out really well in our big LR/DR area.


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Definitely more sleep seems to be doing it, or he's just settling in as it's only 2 weeks tomorrow. Last night was the longest he's slept, from 10 till 5.30. I've also changed his diet from something ordinary - I can't remember what - to Gosbi's exclusive puppy. That seems a lot less greasy to handle, more meat and no maize. Probably similar to the natural mixes in the USA. He's waking up calmer, but still has his bitey moments that do seem to be tiredness related. I've just taken him out for a walk and for the first time ever he's put himself back into his crate for a sleep.
No interest in a ball whatsoever, so I've creatively incorporated his boring toys into one - a sock with a ball in it and a chewy ring tied to the other end - that seems to do the trick!
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