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Old 01-05-2011, 03:55 PM
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My appologies then. Keep in mind 99.99999% of people that ask questions like that are intent on breeding their dogs, and we couldn't possibly know any of that other info because you didn't tell us We aren't mind readers.

6 litters, IMO is way too many. Yes.



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Old 01-05-2011, 04:17 PM
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Tbh I dont mean to be horrible but i dont like yorkshire terriers i only like them as puppys but i would just like to know the limmit as she has had 6 and i klnow its nothing like hamsters but the limmit is 3 so is there for this
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not sure what you mean by "limit"...the dog WILL have puppies every heat until she dies...the dog wont stop on its own...

Personally, I think the max morally should be in the 1-3 litter range. I've never even heard of a dog having 6 litters...I am impressed and mortified at the same time



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Tbh I dont mean to be horrible but i dont like yorkshire terriers i only like them as puppys but i would just like to know the limmit as she has had 6 and i klnow its nothing like hamsters but the limmit is 3 so is there for this
My understanding is that the main thing is giving the bitch excellent nutrition and the time to recover from each litter. If the dog had 6 litters in a row, at every heat, then that is very hard on the female's body. Often breeders will wait a year between litters, so the female can build her body back up again.

The question is how is the female's health? Is her coat glossy and does she have lots of spring in her step? Has she had blood work that shows everything in a normal range? Is she a good weight? Are her teeth clean and free of tarter? Is she on a premium diet?

Does she enjoy being a mother and have plenty of milk for the pups? Are all the pups getting excellent homes from well screened owners?

Six litters in a lifetime seems like plenty to me too, but I've heard of dogs having more than than over a breeding career. (not in a toy breed tho... I don't know if the limit is less with toys)
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Personally, I think the max morally should be in the 1-3 litter range.
I completely, 100% ditto this
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Old 01-10-2011, 04:51 PM
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I hate to say this but i wouldn't class her as a breeder as apparently the last 2 litters where mistakes. Yeah i have got to say she uses the right food and that but i think personally that she does it just for the money as she sells them at 190 each i dont think this is right i just wanted to know as sally the mother dog is always hungery no matter what and always scrounges
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Moral of this thread - don't judge without knowing the full story

6 litters is way too many, I wouldn't take more than 3 from a health tested bitch. I probably wouldn't breed over the age of 4/5 either. Just my personal preference.
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the girl dog has had 6 litters now and i dont think that is right
If you're breeding your girl, of any breed, more then 3 times then you need to re-evaluate your breeding choices or accept that your just breeding for money.

ps. The "you" is not directed at the OP it's a generic "you" for anyone breeding dogs

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It sounds like Sally could use a spay.... Poor girl must be exhausted.

Most decent breeders rarely take even four litters from a bitch; it's not uncommon to see three, and trust me, those three should be carefully chosen. With breeding dogs the goal should be quality, not quantity.... With very serious breeding, extensive research is done on finding the right match, and some breeders are so selective that they may find only ONE stud that they think will suit the bitch the best, with only one or two litters from the pair.

Personally, if I see a dog that has been bred on back-to-back heat cycles for four+ times with the same stud, I'm thinking BYBers looking for $$.

On the note of frequency of breeding, yes it is physically demanding on a bitch to have pups, and I am generally of the mindset that a cycle or two is optimum for recovery. I see no problem, though, with doing two breedings back to back and then spaying; a dog in good health should be able to recover in the months between pregs. However, as far as some reproductive/mammary tract cancers go, I know some breeders are proponents of getting the breedings done earlier, back-to-back, then spaying, so the estrogen cycle isn't so dragged out over the lifespan. The detraction, of course, is that this gives one less time to evaluate health-wise and in competitions the quality of the bitch before breeding. (And perhaps this gives some of the not-so-ethical breeders an excuse to breed, breed, breed earlier, then dump them when no longer useful.)
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