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Old 06-22-2011, 12:16 PM
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Having a hard time crate training

Hi everyone. I am looking for some moral support I think. We have a new puppy and are trying to crate train him. There is no problem at night, we put a few treats in the crate and away he goes for the night. It is in the morning and daytime that breaks our heart. When we get up in the morning I take him outside to do his business, feed him and give fresh water then we go for an hour long walk. I get home from that and we try to have a quiet time to calm him down then I get ready for work and he gladly goes into his crate for a treat but as soon as I close the door he start to cry and bark. I go home during my lunch and take him for a 30 minute walk and repeat the process and so does he. He is not afraid of the crate because when we are home we leave the door open and he goes in to sleep and plays in there by himself. I think the problem is that we as owners feel so guilty about putting him in the crate for the day that we are making more out of it than there really is. Any suggestions though would be greatly appreciated.
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Is he clicker trained? If you have a few minutes a few times a day you can have him go to the crate, close the crate door, wait 5-10 seconds, then click-treat him, that should help. Slowly increase the time every time you do this it, so that eventually you are waiting several minutes or longer before click-treating. You may also need to click-treat him for you leaving vs. just sitting and waiting, but eventually he should be comfy staying in the crate right after you crate him.
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clicker training is great and works very quickly to let your pup know that the crate is a good safe place.
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I think the problem is that we as owners feel so guilty about putting him in the crate for the day that we are making more out of it than there really is. (
I think you may be right. Exactly the same thing happened with me and Synnu. I didn't like putting him in his crate because he cried - so then I hated it more - and he cried more. I'm sure I set up this negative cycle when, every time I put him in I felt stressed and he reacted to it.

The only way I broke the cycle was to get my husband to put him in the crate as he (husband) wasn't anywhere near as 'soft' as me. It did seem to work and though my pup never used the crate voluntarily, at least he didn't cry when we put him in it. Only took 2-3 days too.

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I found the key to crate training Zoey was the motivation for getting in the crate... Better treats... I home make some oatmeal, cheddar cookies for her and she ONLY gets them going in the crate(unless she is being SUPER good, Laying calmly on her mat while I cook dinner for instance) she will now SPRINT for her kennel for the cookies...

we also started to play games, I closed the door and drop the cookie in where she can see it and tell her to kennel up! and she will open the crate to get the cookie. Or we play "dash in dash out" and sometimes I will sit next to her while she was in her crate and read or play with my computer. Also her first few nights she slept in the crate(leash on) with the top off, with my hand in the crate for comfort.

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Start feeding any and all meals in the crate. Break down portions for he gets, say 5 meals a day. This helps tremendously. The best thing in a dogs mind is dinner (generally) and so now the crate and the best thing ever are intimately connected.



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Thanks I will give some of these ideas a try. I know that he only barks for about 5 minutes after we leave so hopefully it will get better
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then give him something to do in those 5mins... eat, kong, chewie, big crunchy bone...
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Start feeding any and all meals in the crate.
Absolutely. And try to crate him for small periods during the day, while you're home, so he'll see it's nothing to get worked up over. Crate him, let him cry it out (with the option to chew on an especially yummy, crate-only treat) and only when he's quiet do you walk back in the room praising him and let him out. Do this a few times a day so he doesn't anticipate that day crating is when you'll be gone for hours.
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Thanks everyone, Night time has become very enjoyable since for some reason he has just decided that he is fine in the crate overnight, curls up and falls asleep without so much as a whimper. Morning time is a lot better but still needs some work. I did try feeding him in the crate but he would not even go in. As soon I took his dish out of the crate he went in and laid down. He is not afraid of the crate which is good and I am wondering if the problem is that he is only up for 2 hours in the morning before going back into it. When I come home at lunch for him he is always fine and when I leave for work again after lunch he just curls up and sleeps.
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