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Old 05-24-2014, 01:42 PM
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And cautiously sneaking in a pic. It's almost impossible to get one from the side, he sees a camera and he is right there staring.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:54 PM
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I wonder if he has suffered from neurological damage. I have no idea really, but it seems that his issues go beyond what would be expected of a normal puppy.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:59 PM
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That's what we're wondering. If he's a genuine damaged dog, that's okay ... we just need to know what to do for him to make him happy. Or find him somewhere else where he'll be happy, if it's not here. Then we'll know for sure whether or not it's us.. or something that's in his mind. Or what medicines he'll need to help him be less anxious, or whatever. Dad's onboard at least with finding out.
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I'm glad to hear that your dad is onboard with helping Sammy.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:26 AM
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I failed more than one of my finals because I couldn't stop worrying about this puppy. Thankfully the rest of my yearly average meant I didn't fail my classes, but it was a near thing.

Sammy is an exhausting venture. For me he is as obedient as one can hope a puppy to be, friendly, and loves to cuddle. For me, he is a good puppy. For dad, he is hostile, teeth-baring and growling ... every time he stands up. He's fine with dad sitting, and even goes for treats. We have had him since just before May. Weeks of attempting positive conditioning has done absolutely NOTHING to stop the growling and teeth showing.

In spite of threats, dad has not hit him. In spite of threats, dad has not cornered him, or raised his voice to the puppy. It has been a parade of chicken nuggets, honey and deliciousness even if Sam is running the other way growling.

We hired a behaviorist, who observed his interactions in the house and then asked to take Sammy for a few days to work on his fear problems. While he was gone he was supposedly somewhat timid but otherwise friendly and willing to see people. Bring him home, it's back to the teeth and growls. She did get to see the memory reset issue Sammy has, but called it normal puppy behavior. She called his growling at dad normal puppy behavior and he'll grow out of it. The behaviorist suggested since he is perfectly normal around other dogs we ... get another dog. It took a week to convince dad last time to not get a second dog. Right now we can't afford another dog, if my glance at the bills is accurate. We brought him to a new vet, he loved all over them and didn't act even a little timid. I know dogs don't do things to be deceptive, I KNOW it. But it does feel like he's making us out to be liars.

Since he is good everywhere but home, it has been decided it's a training problem. Since I am the one who trains him, it is now my fault Sammy is hostile to dad - even though this behavior doesn't change when I'm not there. Even though with some effort and cajoling and praise I can get him to go see most anyone at all EXCEPT him.

I want to give up. I didn't sign up for this. It's cost me my GPA, it's cost me my peace of mind, and if I can't find a way to convince the college people that this year was just a fluke it may cost me my education. Sammy is a good puppy. Except for this one. Problem. I really think he'd be better off somewhere else besides here.

I have begun looking for other dogs. At this point I want the cheap easy way out that doesn't mean returning Sam to the hellhole he came from. Dad's offer to get me a purebred if I want one is still on the table so I have been very carefully looking over breeds. If I have to deal with a second dog, I don't want another rescue fracas. You really don't know what you're getting. So far, I'm eyeing keeshonden. Even though I don't like long haired dogs they have the right breed-personality.

There's nothing else I can do anymore.
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I'd suggest you find the puppy another home while he is still young and cute and someone wants to adopt him. Don't take him to a high kill shelter or "the hell hole he came from". Try to find him a home yourself or through a rescue organization.

Maybe it is a bad idea to get another dog for your dad...
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What's your dad doing in all this? You really shouldn't be in a position where you're jeopardising your future over a dog. It's good that he has ceased his violent behaviour towards Sammy... But it sounds like all the responsibility for this pup is on your shoulders. You're seeing it as your failure, but obviously there's more to the picture than that. Does dad play with him? Walk him? Train him other than the conditioning with food? Do they interact in other settings, or all the incidents happening in a certain area (e.g. the living room)? There's surely more he could be doing to help you help Sammy.

Also bear in mind that it can take dogs months and months, even years, to overcome fear problems. Don't give up yet, or think that it isn't working. And I really think that getting another dog, while it might help Sammy, sounds like something that your family really can't afford or deal with right now. You don't need the responsibility of two dogs on your head at this crucial time in your life. And there are other ways to help Sammy. Perhaps you could try another behaviourist, or get the other one to come into your home and observe Sammy there rather than taking him out.

Good luck, I really feel for you. Hope the situation gets better.
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I've said more than once why just randomly giving him away isn't an option. I can keep repeating myself but the information's not going to change.

Dad's working in all this. He does the job thing and after 10 hour shifts is usually too tired to do much of anything with Sam. We go for walks on the weekend with him and when he isn't exhausted, he does the feeding thing, and constant treats even when he's barely awake on the couch. Trying to do any training is entertainingly pointless, Sammy doesn't accept commands from anyone but me. No sit, no paw, nothing. Not even my grandmother. He just seems to suddenly go deaf, and treats don't help him suddenly focus and obey them in favor of OMG MUST GET TREAT NOOOOOOOW. We're trying, but even the vaunted dog expert we saw couldn't get him to do anything he didn't want to do. He'll listen when I tell him though.

Unfortunately, all behaviorists in a roughly 50 mile radius want hundreds of dollars for their evaluation alone, never mind training, and after the last one I'm not so keen to throw more money at complete strangers who claim credentials and then say abnormal behavior is perfectly normal. I guess this is just one more thing I'll have to deal with on my own. Is it fair? No. But life isn't fair. That's one lesson I'm learning pretty solidly. I'll stop sulking about it to you guys.

Thanks for the luck. I'll need it. At least by the time school starts up again he'll be housebroken and I don't have to mad-dash home during lunch. He's pretty reliable now, if I mind the time.
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Hang in there, Redwood! I hoping for the best for you, Sammy, and even dear ole Dad.

I hope you can get some advice from your school's guidance counselor and teachers on how to best apply for colleges and scholarships. I had one very bad semester as an undergrad (family death), and it ended up having no effect on my getting into grad school. You've got a lot going for you. I know you'll persevere.
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