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Old 03-16-2015, 03:26 AM
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Feeling low. Brittany pup

About a month ago we adopted Jac, a seven month Brittany. He is lively but very patient with our three children, never shows aggression and is perfect in that sense. He is also super cute. But I am having some bonding issues... I find myself getting annoyed by him - his pulling on the lead I can not stand. I am trying to train him to not but no good so far... Also his mouthing is driving me nuts. When he meets you (or anyone) he jumps and mouths and jumps some more. He is only 14 kilos but it's hard work. I say no bite! I hold his muzzle and say no. I walk away. He runs after me and nips. He thinks he is one of the kids, gets jealous when I carry my two year old and nips her feet. He tries to steal food off their plates on the table. We say no, we remove him from the room or put him on his blanket in the corner but nothing has changed at all.. He comes when called off the lead. If he wants to. But not always which makes life tricky. I walk him at least 3 km each morning and another Shorter walk in the evening. He has a huge garden to run around in whenever he wants and he does have a lot of outside time. I kind of feel he takes takes takes and Doesn't give much.. He rarely sits and cuddles, he hasn't got a tail to wag, he doesn't lick us.. It's hard to get affection. I feel I am in crisis am Hoping castration may help him focus. Am I horrid?!?
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He has been sleeping in a crate in our bedroom, think I will move him out.. I worry he thinks that makes him a higher rank than the kids..
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Rank never crosses your dog's mind. Obviously what you're doing isn't working. Stop grabbing his muzzle and saying No.

Get into a training class with a positive trainer and learn how to teach your dog. Every single thing you mention is perfectly normal for a dog this age and especially of this breed.

I understand being frustrated. Just think how frustrated your dog must be trying to figure out how to live among humans with all their weird rules that make no sense to a dog.

You might benefit from reading Culture Clash by Jean Donaldson.
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Paul Owens book "the dog whisperer" is also a very good book to help you get on the right track. Also read the stickies in this section, theres " dominance in dogs" - a very good and IMO important read for every new dog owner, there's also stickies on mouthing and nipping, recall, etc. some very good info.
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I don't "grab" his muzzle. I simply
Hold it still so his mouth is closed while I tell him no. I am not cruel, I am firm. I only just started this. I was just walking away but got sore from him chasing and nipping the back of my legs (or my husband between his legs..)
Sure it's not working , that's why I came here to ask for help and advice.

Rank doesn't cross his mind? This goes against everything I have read about dogs and their position in the pack / family.
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Perhaps I was crazy for hoping he would learn things quicker than he is. I guess it's early days..

We are joining a class, hoping that will help.
I have had dogs before but never had this trouble bonding.
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Thanks for pointing out its all normal.. Was starting to feel we had a delinquent.. It's easy to lose focus.
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As a kid we had a Brittany. We thought he was a little delinquent for the first two years of his life, but with work, training, and maturity he calmed down into a very fine dog. Still a wonderful boy at almost 14 years The stuff you're mentioning is normal puppy stuff, and while I don't have much time to post training advice you'll get some great stuff from folks on here
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I don't "grab" his muzzle. I simply
Hold it still so his mouth is closed while I tell him no. I am not cruel, I am firm. I only just started this. I was just walking away but got sore from him chasing and nipping the back of my legs (or my husband between his legs..)
Sure it's not working , that's why I came here to ask for help and advice.

Rank doesn't cross his mind? This goes against everything I have read about dogs and their position in the pack / family.
Hi Jac2014,

I'm running off to work now, but I can sense your anxiety. Take a deep breath, ok!

I just wanted to address this post, and I know that others will have terrific training advice for you.

I certainly don't think that you are being "cruel" to your dog by holding his muzzle, but that approach clearly isn't working for you. It's probably just getting him more excited. It's time to take a new approach. Take a look at the suggestions in this thread:

https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...ipping-168082/

Also, about dominance and rank, please read this article:

De-Bunking the "Alpha Dog" Theory - Whole Dog Journal Article

Also, the book that Grabby recommended, "Culture Clash," is excellent at explaining dog behavior and psychology.

The problem nowadays is that Cesar Milan is such a superstar and because he says that "rank" matters, so many dog owners across the country think it must be true. The truth of the matter is that he is JUST a television personality, and taking training advice from him is like taking relationship advice from a Kardashian.

A MUCH BETTER dog trainer to follow is Kikopup. You can find her videos on youtube.

Good luck and off to work!
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Right now it sounds like he's getting lots of ''no's'' and few ''yes''. You want to work on flipping that around so focus on showing and teaching him what you do want him to do. Dogs given way more ''no's'' are basically left hanging and able to decide for themselves what to do next as they are rarely shown what to do instead (and rewarded for that good behavior). So your goal needs to be making sure you're giving far more ''yes'' (and each ''yes'' should be rewarded with a treat, toy, play, etc. at this point) than you do ''no's'' each day.

I would suggest incorporating a SMARTx50 into your day.
Kathy Sdao’s SMART x 50 – Another Way to Use 1,000 Treats | Dogs and Babies
For people who do this, it works wonders. Allows you to quickly train polite manners and builds your value/desire to work with you.

Also sit down and think about your list of problem behaviors. Approach it in a 2 fold manner. First part is to set up a management and supervision plan to prevent your boy from continuing to practice unwanted behavior. Most unwanted behavior tends to be self-reinforcing (fun/enjoyable for the dog). REWARD =REPEAT for both ''good'' and ''bad'' behavior, so each time he is able to practice the bad, it just makes it more likely he'll try again in the future! That's why preventing the ''bad'' with management and supervision is super important and a crucial part of training.
Second, actively train what you do want him to do instead. This will help you flip over to mostly ''yes''! Some handy alternative behaviors are sit, down, stay, wait, and send to and settle on mat. But you're really only limited by your creativity.

If he does happen to do something unwanted then you need to either interrupt and redirect to an appropriate activity or remove him from the situation, give a little time out so he can calm down before trying again. The video below is nice for showing how to still interrupt unwanted behavior without resorting to corrections. Most of the time I do just interrupt and redirect. Time out's ime tend to be better for jumping, biting, and other stuff happening because the dog is excited. I calmy and quietly either remove the dog and wait for the dog to settle down or I remove myself. I normally wait for a calm behavior like a sit as well as eye contact before trying again.
And also take mental note of what happened. Try to fix you management and training to prevent it from happening again in the same situation!




Have you looked through these threads?
Tons of info and training vids to help you with the specific problems you're having!
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...e-dogs-174673/
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...ipping-168082/
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...-walking-1683/
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...lmness-168218/
https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...s/recall-9595/
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