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Old 04-20-2012, 09:08 AM
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Yes, and it is my fault for actually wanting to learn something new. Shame on me.

I'll stick to just trying to ignore when garbage is posted unless I think it's harmful medical advice. Ugh.
Not your fault at all.
I did the same thing for many comments on another thread.
(well, then its my fault too!)

After all, where are we on the nature vs nurture thread? Nearly 200 comments, and still just debating based on anecdote.
I posted scientific sources but that seemed not to receive much notice.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:30 AM
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controversy.
There is nothing wrong with controversy and the exchange of ideas. Quite the contrary, when good minds exchange thoughts, sometimes the conversation will generate new and better ideas.

What IS patently wrong here is that you introduced a claim, and upon inquiry provided links and information that were not relevant, as if links were some holy grail that might ward off your having to take responsibility for the claims you made and then stood by.
I find you disingenuous in your claims of innocence after throwing link after false link at this community.

If we were discussing decorating or some such I'd shrug it off, but the subject here is living critters, and false advice might well cause harm.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:13 AM
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When done from day three to day sixteen, as the program states, I doubt you would need to worry about someone with a chf dog suffering from this.
.... ? And why is that? When you state that you:

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I have no proof of any health benefits
Man, the contradiction runs RAMPANT in this damn thread.



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After all, where are we on the nature vs nurture thread?
I think I've managed to stay far far away from that! Go me!


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If we were discussing decorating or some such I'd shrug it off, but the subject here is living critters, and false advice might well cause harm.
!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto.


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Lynnmarie, I am actually interested in the reply you get, so please post it.
Of course you are. You'll probably just believe whatever is posted and not question how logical it is...

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Old 04-20-2012, 11:35 AM
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Holly if you will read you will see that I never stated I had never argued the health of it.

Again I will ask, how many detection dogs or military working dogs do you have experience with?
So unless you know about this, you don't know that its garbage.

As far as believing what I hear, that's pretty funny. I believe what I see working. I don't care one way or another if you believe it or not. If you aren't producing working dogs, then I understand why you aren't concerned with it.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:42 AM
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Holly if you will read you will see that I never stated I had never argued the health of it.

Again I will ask, how many detection dogs or military working dogs do you have experience with?
So unless you know about this, you don't know that its garbage.

As far as believing what I hear, that's pretty funny. I believe what I see working. I don't care one way or another if you believe it or not. If you aren't producing working dogs, then I understand why you aren't concerned with it.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:25 PM
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Again I will ask, how many detection dogs or military working dogs do you have experience with?
So unless you know about this, you don't know that its garbage.
Each time you refer to working dogs as if they were some alien creatures that only can be understood by The Initiated it sounds more ridiculous.


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I mean, I dont train pets in obedience, only working dogs in detection, protection, tracking, trailing, hrd, disaster, directionals. Mostly I deal with malinois and dutch shepherds, who of course are not ever dog or people aggressive, of any other behavioral problems, and are just a breeze to deal with. But I only have 13 at the moment. So what do I know.
This was from another thread, showing your attempt to just squash the poster with nasty superiority instead of trying to help someone who could have really used some patience and explanation.

I do not know why you are here, I think it has something to do with a poor self image because you parade what you have at the drop of a hat instead of doing what many of the rest of us do, which is try to help people so that they can try to help their dogs.

I suspect you will get more and more dogs, and assert more and more superiority, until the fateful day that you realize that no one will ever look up to you because they clearly see that their only possible view is the sole of your boot stepping on them.

This is a wakeup call for you. Change your attitude and I'm sure people will forgive and forget and welcome you into the fold. Don't change, and you are headed for personal disaster.

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Lucille. I have offered many helpful training tips. Some people lack common sense.

You don't know me, or how far I have come with dogs. Yes the working dog world and pet world are so different, you wouldn't believe it.

I get frustrated with people who cater to ignorance. So if I come across as rude or short from time to time about someone who is going to euthanized a dog that probably doesn't need it, tough Crap. If you don't like it, don't read it.
I don't agree with your opinions or several others, but I don't come on here talking about Your self image, or what others think of you. I'm experienced enough to not need to worry about what you think.
In case you don't understand, there are more to dogs than lap poodles. Some people here are very experienced with dogs, and I appreciate learning from their knowledge. Their are always different points of view, and if you were not so closed minded, you could possibly learn to.

As far as more dogs, well yes I get in many dogs a year, sell many, and place some into pet homes. I will continue to read here, learn here, and share knowledge. I'm sorry that the world isn't a perfect place with only one point of view, where we all hold hands and sing happy songs. I won't cater to you, I'm sure there is an ignore button if you don't like what I have to say. I don't need to explain to myself why I'm here, just as you don't need to explain to me why you are.
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And as far as the other thread you mentioned, the poster was boasting of their experience as a seasoned dog trainer. They mocked everyone who attempted to help with sound advice. Many people tried to help. Such an experienced trainer wouldn't have considered euthanasia for a simple problem.
If someone asks for help, then won't take advice offered, why bother?
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Holly, Lucille, Criosphynx may I ask what breeds you breed? What you breed them for? How do you raise them?
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