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Old 04-19-2012, 08:36 AM
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Holly, would an echo not show improved function regardless of this program, since at day three and day sixteen the pups will be stronger.

So really to test a pup that it wasn't performed on vs a pup where it was, they could have different cardiac output anyway. Unless the study was done on several hundreds of dogs, I don't know that would be accurate. Or maybe I'm thinking wrong here.
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Holly, would an echo not show improved function regardless of this program, since at day three and day sixteen the pups will be stronger.

So really to test a pup that it wasn't performed on vs a pup where it was, they could have different cardiac output anyway. Unless the study was done on several hundreds of dogs, I don't know that would be accurate. Or maybe I'm thinking wrong here.

No, you are correct, and are kind of proving my point.
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Seriously? You can't claim MEDICAL benefits and not have info to back it up. It's all about the potentially bogus MEDICAL benefits that are being claimed.


As I stated before, socialization, whether this method or anything else, will benefit the puppies in that sense. But please, do not claim medical benefits when you cannot prove them and they cannot have been tested.
Ok, I wasn't trying to be ugly. I was just asking so I knew what and how to ask Dr. Carmen L. Battaglia..
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Then I apologize because it sounded like it.

All you need to ask for is the study of proof of the medical benefits... how they measure adrenal strength, how they determined cardiac improvement (or however it was worded). I forget what the other 3 were, but if you just asked for the proof of the medical benefits, that should be all encompassing.
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I found this. It is referenced on the Early Neurological Stimulation

http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org.../1/42.full.pdf

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Can you quote the portions pertaining to the medical claims?
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Can you quote the portions pertaining to the medical claims?
I can not cut and paste the pdf file however pdf page 5..article page 46..Development of the Central Nervous System
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I can not cut and paste the pdf file however pdf page 5..article page 46..Development of the Central Nervous System

.... has nothing to do with it.

Okay, I'm done.
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Then I apologize because it sounded like it.

All you need to ask for is the study of proof of the medical benefits... how they measure adrenal strength, how they determined cardiac improvement (or however it was worded). I forget what the other 3 were, but if you just asked for the proof of the medical benefits, that should be all encompassing.
Ok I emailed the site Breeding Better Dogs
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.... has nothing to do with it.

Okay, I'm done.


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