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Old 04-18-2012, 05:31 AM
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Conference on Research to Expand the Usefulness of the Military Working Dog
Try this one.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:32 AM
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If I did that right, it is a scientific based research on the biosensor program used in the seventies, which I believe is still exactly the same.
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The gsd and donated dogs are now mostly replaced by USAF lackland malinois breeding program.
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I have done this to puppies that I purchased when they were 8 and 11 weeks. They had not had it done, but did respond to it. Since I was showing my dogs, I wanted them to not be afraid and be well adjusted. I do have to say the male responded quicker and better then the female. However the female was a single puppy in her litter. She had zero prior stimulation except from her mom.
Julie I thought about this and even though I was doing the same exercises. It is probably more the handling they responded to and not the type of stimulations I was doing...I am not blonde but I do have my DUH moments..
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I think handling does make a.difference. I handle every pup from day one, though not with cold.stimulation, or turning the pups upside down. But on their backs, straight up, touching all toes, ears, etc. Not sure that it will make a difference with this litter. Actually, since I won't have any not going.through the procedure, I won't be able to tell if it really helps of not
. This is the first crossing with this knpv import stud. His first breeding period. So I have nothing to compare to. However, it can't hurt anything, so I'll try it and see. It's an interesting concept, and I know many top producers who do implement it and swear by it. Though I know some breeders who do absolutely nothing with pups, and though they work just as well, seems they aren't near as friendly, easy to handle. However that could be genetics, any number of things, as I haven't researched enough to know.

I did talk.with one who used the same parents for three consecutive litters. The first did not have the biosensor program, the last two did. 3 out of 8 worked from first litter, 12 out of 12 the second , and so far at a year old 10 out if 12 of the last litter. Coincidence, maybe. However, it can't hurt, takes only minutes a day, so I'll try it.
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Did that link help holly?
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Did that link help holly?

Did you look at it? It's totally unrelated... and 128 pages. I skimmed it all, did a search for the key words I was interested in "adrenal" and "cardiac" and there were no hits.

You guys don't have a researched link. I've wasted a lot of time perusing the links provided that don't have any actual research.

Thanks for trying, but I'm done searching for something that doesn't seem to exist...
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To be clear-- I'm not saying that interacting with your puppy is not important, but I'm just saying that the "Five Benefits" make claims that cannot be backed up.

So yes, interact a lot with the puppies for their social behavior and emotional well-being, but don't do it because you think you're changing something physiologically that makes them "healthier" because there is no basis for the statements of "stronger adrenals" and "better cardiac output". Besides, saying stuff like that would indicate that the pups were not healthy to begin with IMO.
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I have no idea about the health claims, but I have used this method on quite a few litters, and found them to be easier to handle, easier to train, react better to stress and are generally easier-going adults then those I didn't do it on.

Just my own personal observation.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:34 PM
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Actually it has plenty of research. Most of the military files are not released. I'm not sure if that one included the health studies, I have so many files, but not the time to check each one. So if you want to learn more you can research it.

Honestly, on some parts I'm not sure on the findings. Though I know enough of the dogs produced using it, so I will stick with it.

Greta was invited to be part of a study from Penn vet, researching " working genes" at our USAR disaster certifications last month. I'm excited to see what comes of it.
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