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Old 10-17-2010, 04:18 PM
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Hey everyone. If I make any spelling mistakes, it's because I am using my sisters Ipod touch.

My new pup, Serenity is a 9 week old Kelpie x Australian Cattle Dog. She is a very confident, dominent dog. I have heard this is a common trait on the breed but I'm concerned that she may become dog aggressive because of how she acts around other dogs in the future so I plan to socalize her A LOT.

When she is around dogs her size she does sometimes rarely play but mostly she trys dominating another dog, if the dog doesn't submit she will start snarling/barking and she will repeatdly strike the other dog so I do stop her but I can see she is not playing.

What can I do to correct this behavior?. I own another dog who is great with other dogs, I am hoping she will be to.
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Old 10-17-2010, 04:32 PM
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Hey everyone. If I make any spelling mistakes, it's because I am using my sisters Ipod touch.

My new pup, Serenity is a 9 week old Kelpie x Australian Cattle Dog. She is a very confident, dominent dog. I have heard this is a common trait on the breed but I'm concerned that she may become dog aggressive because of how she acts around other dogs in the future so I plan to socalize her A LOT.

When she is around dogs her size she does sometimes rarely play but mostly she trys dominating another dog, if the dog doesn't submit she will start snarling/barking and she will repeatdly strike the other dog so I do stop her but I can see she is not playing.

What can I do to correct this behavior?. I own another dog who is great with other dogs, I am hoping she will be to.
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The whole dominance theory is out just an fyi

It sounds like she is not comfortable around other dogs or does not understand proper play, which is likely considering she was removed from her mom too young (you have had her for a few weeks right?)

How much exercise is she getting at home? Has her health been confirmed to be good?

If she is playing well but then getting rough I would see how long she tends to play correctly for and stop play and remove her when it gets close to this time and before she can become too overwhelmed. If she is doing this right off the back, or even when she begins to get overwhelmed and show these behaviors, remove her and leave. Play session is over. If she leaves in a good mood she may be more likely to return in a good mood and extend her appropriate play sessions I hope that made sense.
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Its a puppy, a normal puppy

shes 9 weeks old. This is normal puppy play, especially if she was removed from the litter too young. She needs to learn proper manners from other dogs. Try and find older dogs that are socially stable for her to interact with. That will firmly, but gently tell her off when shes too rough. Its also up to you to remove and interupt her when shes too rough.

I know you say shes not playing, but the options here are for the most part

shes playing and its rougher than you've seen (puppies can play VERY rough)

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shes afraid of the other dog and is trying to make it go away.

or a combo...she may also simply be overstimulated



But yeah, dominance is an old hat. Its not a valid theory anymore



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Good recommendation on finding older dogs who will teach her whats appropriate. I didnt even think of that.
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I got her at 8 weeks so she came to me at the right age . Sometimes she instantly starts to dominate another dog. Q few times she has instantly placed her paw over the shoulder of another dig and snarl, if the fog moved then she'd snap at him/her. Other times she has started this behavior a few seconds Into play.

Thank you for your advice. I never thought of some things you guys wrote so thank you, I feel better now and I'll do what you guys have recommended. I am taking her to puppy school soon so thank fully a trainer might be able to give me dome pointers aswell.

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a big key to what you just said is that she puts her paw over their backs. that is a sign of play. had she had a stare down face to face, froze, etc. etc. a bit different.

finding the dog that will correct your pup, as said before, is a good thing to try to do. be careful with this though... youre looking for that dog that will tolerate so much, give some warnings if shes too rough, then just say "enough!" firm enough so she gets the point, but not so much as to terrify her. a good corrector will be vocal, but not physical. you want the dog to make a quick movement towards your pup with a bark that says to back off, which should be enough to back her off. but you dont want a dog whos going to pin her down or scare the crap out of her so bad that she will not want to be around other dogs anymore.

as for dominance... forget it. this is just puppy play. shes living in the moment and learning about life.

and watch your pup. if your pup is playing nice nice nice... then all the sudden starts getting snappy after a bit, i might just be that its tired. i have come across many puppies who were just so tired they didnt want to play, but just couldnt stop. so they have to be removed by you from the situation and let them take a nap. you dont want bad habits to develop from being cranky when playing.
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I'm having sort of the same problem. We got a little ridgeback at 8 1/2 weeks. When she plays with other dogs she always bites at their face, she's very snappy. Currently we have her with a friends mastiff (who is completely submissive, but much larger than her) and all she does is bit at the other dogs face grabbing a cheek. She is playing but how can I get her to play less aggressively, or is it just a dog thing? I want to take her to the dog park but I'm nervous that she's going to play too rough with other peoples dog. We attend a puppy play and she does fine, but she always wants to take play to the next level.
Suggestions? Or is she just a pup?
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I'm having sort of the same problem. We got a little ridgeback at 8 1/2 weeks. When she plays with other dogs she always bites at their face, she's very snappy. Currently we have her with a friends mastiff (who is completely submissive, but much larger than her) and all she does is bit at the other dogs face grabbing a cheek. She is playing but how can I get her to play less aggressively, or is it just a dog thing? I want to take her to the dog park but I'm nervous that she's going to play too rough with other peoples dog. We attend a puppy play and she does fine, but she always wants to take play to the next level.
Suggestions? Or is she just a pup?
interrupt inappropriate play like this. remove her from the situation, let her calm, then bring her back. do it two to three times max during one session, if it still continues end the session completely. she will catch on. you have to teach her when she does such and such, that she is removed and the fun is over.
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