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Old 04-12-2011, 10:50 PM
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I wouldn't take her anywhere public until she was fully vaccinated. Puppy play dates with a friend or neighbor who's dog is known to be healthy would be fine (but I'd keep the play date inside anyway for fear of strays possibly contaminating any outside area).
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Thanks, we're going to follow up with the vet about extra shots, and not take her anywhere yet. I can't read the pound paperwork very well, but either they missed her first set and so did our vet, or they did them and the vet was waiting to do the next set.
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She will only have 1 from county
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Definitely a "No Go" to public parks and such.

But, it is VERY important you get her socializing while she is still young, so get her together with friends' dogs who are healthy and vaccinated. The "socialization window" is said by some to be closing at 16 weeks, so if you wait to get her meeting other dogs until she's fully vaccinated, you misss the prime time.

I would not advise a dog park anyway... too many dogs, too many dogs you don't know how they will react to your pup.

Arrange "play dates" at your house or a friends house, with dogs who are known to be friendly and good with puppies. Your chances of her getting a disease are remote if you are not exposing her to a public place. Healthy, vaccinated dogs, do not give puppies illnesses. Puppies get sick from contact with pee/poo from sick and unvaccinated dogs... ie at dog parks, city streets, rest areas from the highway, pet stores etc.
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Thanks, pawz. The vets office also said we should wait 3-4 weeks after the 4in1 to start boosters. After she's healed up I think I'll see if my brother's heard will like her.
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np sweety! I could use more pics as a gift lol
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One vaccine isn't enough to provide protection. When you give a single vaccine that required within a series, it only produced a small antibody spike. You want a large body reaction to the given vaccine.



This chart shows you how the body creates antibodies after a vaccine is given. IgM and IgG are antibodies that the body produced in a response to a threat. There are 5 classes of antibodies. You can see a small consistent jump in the IgM after the Primary vaccine and booster vaccine have been given (5 weeks apart in this particular chart, which is not specific to any vaccine.) IgG is the most common AB (antibody) produced in the body and you can see it's small increase in productivity after the primary vaccine. Then it decreases after weeks...so if you don't do the booster vaccines, the first vaccines become null and void. This small "blip" of IgG after the first vaccine is not powerful enough to fight an infection if the puppy is exposed before the vaccination schedule is finished. That "blip" of antibody production grows with each vaccine. When it gets to a certain level, (after all 3 vaccines) then the body is ready to protect the puppy from that particular threat.

Vaccines differ: Lyme vaccine requires a booster after only 2 weeks, because it's antibody productivity decreases faster than those in a 4 in 1. Bordetella requires only 1 vaccination for the body to be adequately protected from kennel cough for a year.

The antibodies themselves will always decrease after a vaccine is given, so the IgG isn't going to say consistently high after all 3 shots are given.

The real goal of a vaccine is to produce Memory cells, which are another type of B cell (which all these listed antibodies are also B cells....ah, How I miss immunology class!) Memory cells are what stay in the body long-term (for years, or sometimes a lifetime). When a virus or bacteria is introduced to a body that has been exposed to the same virus or bacteria before (in a vaccine), the Memory cells are what jump into action, they produce the antibodies that are required to fight off that sickness...so you'll get that spike in IgG or IgM again, but this time, instead of being produced as a reaction to a vaccination, they are being produced by these Memory cells and to a reaction that's the real thing. "This is not a drill!"

When you booster a vaccine every year, (or every 10 years for a tetanus vaccine in a human, for example), you're keeping a fresh supply of memory cells in the body that are ready to respond to a problem quickly and effectively.
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Ok, so should I wait until she's had two sets of shots? - like 5 more weeks??? She's still got the giardia, but I figure we can get the first set of shots when she has her check up in about a week to make sure she's negative for giardia. Um...can I carry her around the neighborhood at play LAT while holding her? LOL. I'm missing this window of opportunity! D:
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I think it's fine to carry her but I would still avoid high traffic areas since you could bring home something on your shoes, unless you bleach them.
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Ok, so should I wait until she's had two sets of shots? - like 5 more weeks??? She's still got the giardia, but I figure we can get the first set of shots when she has her check up in about a week to make sure she's negative for giardia. Um...can I carry her around the neighborhood at play LAT while holding her? LOL. I'm missing this window of opportunity! D:
She needs the full series to be fully vaccinated. So if it's the puppy series, then it's 3 shots, or 4 for rotties and dobies. She can still catch any of the illness covered in the 4 in 1, 5 in 1, or 6 in 1 (depending which shots series your vet is giving her.) Keep her away from areas with strange dogs or in public areas where stranger dogs roam. Try to keep her around dogs that you know are fully vaccinated, such as dogs in your family, until she is finished with her shots.

A few summers ago, my area had a HUGE parvo and distempter outbreak...it felt like every puppy that came through our doors had one or the other, and we lost about 50% of them.
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