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Old 10-18-2013, 09:55 AM
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Creating Seperation Anxiety

Not that I don't think that Applejack's attatchment to me is the cutest thing ever but...

So, last night my hubby and I got her calm and put her in her crate so we could have some grown up time. She had just gone out, and everything should have been fine. But she cried the entire hour, only settling down for the last 45 seconds before I let her out.

Okay, so we have some more training to do.

But then, the rest of the night, she freaked out everytime I was out of her sight. When I went to the bathroom she cried and cried and wouldn't be calmed until I came out. Same with when I went to make dinner, as she isn't allowed in the kitchen yet (litter box is there you see).

I'm home with her all day, and we do an awful lot together. Our routine is wake up-outside-breakfast-outside-training-nap (while I work/dink around here)-outside-walk-nap-outside-training until my husband gets home.

Am I spending too much time with her? Is that even possible?
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:44 AM
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yes it is possible. or at least I believe it to be. My friend had a dog he was home with the entire time the first 4 months and then when the time for him to go back to work came, issues arose, like peeing, eating furniture etc. My friend didn't really have some of the best patience so that didn't help the situation any either. try starting off leaving her in her kennel, then leave the house just for a short period of time, like walk to end of the block and back. do that for a week or so, then start doing it for longer periods, when you run to grocery store etc. She probably will scream & whine, but eventually if she knows that your not In the vicinity to hear her she may stop. no guarantee on that. I'm not a behaviorist or certified trainer, but I have had my customers have success with that method, especially with younger dogs. There may be some trainers or behaviorists on here that may give better advice, but for now try that and see how it goes.
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Hi
I was home with Hugo A LOT for the first few months (self employed & flexible schedule) & I was worried about falling into the trap of him being too dependent on my presence. I think it's all about slowly conditioning them to being left alone. Starting by leaving them alone in the house/crate/whatever method you're going with for 30 seconds...then a few minutes...then 15 minutes etc. It gets easier.

Admittedly, Hugo still waits right outside the toilet door, the bathroom door, the bedroom door & sits & stares until I magically come back...& when I first leave the house to go out he screams like a banshee for a few minutes...but I know it's just a big act because I have filmed him & he just stops his yodeling pretty quickly & goes to sleep on the furniture :P
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Dogs that ham it up make me laugh. When my sister's malamute would step on a rock he would wail like he was dying and start limping all over the place. Until you called him with a treat. Then he was fine.

Leaving her in a crate has been nothing but a disaster. I did, however, manage to leave her realitvely unsupervised while I baked some cookies with only minimal damage to the carpet (WHY she will stand there with her toys between her legs, almost in her mouth, and choose to tear up the carpet I do not know).

I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow, and I'm debating seeing if I can babyproof the bathroom to leave her in with food, water, and toys. There is a cupboard on the floor that she could get behind that I'm not sure what to do about that worries me.
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Have you tried leaving on any familiar white noise? Radio, fan, even a recording a someone moving about opening cupboards/doing household chores?
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Yesterday I had calming music and today I left 'Good Eats' on when she was in there for 5 minutes before hubby got home so I could ice and sprinkle cookies without chasing a puppy away from the liter box every 30 seconds. No difference with either.

She's also stopped eating her treats if the door is shut. Even some of her very favorite cheese and chicken. She'll be munching away happily, but the minute the door shuts she loses interest. Even when I try and feed her through the door and I'm sitting right there. She won't touch any of it.
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My advice on the litter box is to find another solution for the cats. Put the litter box somewhere only the cats can get to. Really, its not worth chasing the puppy about this, and having that many negative interactions with her.

"Kitty bon-bons" are just waaaay too attractive to a puppy. Its like leaving candy within reach of a 3 year old and expecting the child not to reach for it.
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Have you tried crating and leaving her for short periods of time? Our puppy also howled and hooted when we left him in his crate, but my husband and I both work full time, so we had to leave him alone until we could come back and walk him a few hours later. It helped to practice leaving him in his cage, while we were home, but out of site. We started with 1 minute, then 5, then 10, etc., and the gradually built up to an hour.

The first day I went back to work, when Theo was 9 weeks old, he screamed and screamed. When I came home to walk him, he screamed and screamed. I could hear him outside the house! When I got home from work for the day, he screamed and screamed. But now, he is fine being left in his cage, even when we're home. He doesn't cry or whine. It was an easy training process for us, but I understand how hard it is to listen to them crying, whining, scratching the cage, rattling the cage, etc.

While building Theo up to getting used to being in the cage, we'd put him in there, walk away, and have to listen to him tear it up. At the minute mark, we'd let him out. It got to the point where we would only let him out if he was calm and quiet, and now he knows he has to sit, be calm, and stop barking (if barking) before he can come out.

Another thing that helped immensely: the peanut butter stuffed frozen kong. When he has that in his cage, he doesn't care if we exist or not! That gets him into the cage, without fail, every single time, and it helps keep him calm.

Have you tried crating her and sitting next to the crate while she calms down? You could use this as a the beginning phase of gradually building up her time in the crate. Or throwing kibble in the crate, and letting her go in there and get it, while keeping the door open? Then putting more kibble in, building up to closing the door with her in there? That could create some positive association with the crate.
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She's also stopped eating her treats if the door is shut. Even some of her very favorite cheese and chicken. She'll be munching away happily, but the minute the door shuts she loses interest. Even when I try and feed her through the door and I'm sitting right there. She won't touch any of it.
Sorry, I didn't read all the responses/posts before I posted my reply! Sounds like you're already doing the treat in the crate thing.
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Yep, tried them all. She forgets all about her kong the minute the door is shut, no matter how yummy I make the stuff inside.

I've tried shutting the door and sitting next to her for first 10, 20, 30 seconds. Then walking away for 10, 20, 30 seconds and so on. I don't let her out if she's crying, so sometimes she has to sit in there longer but it hasn't helped at all.


We've fed her all her meals in there until this morning, when she was just too scared to go in. So we're starting all over. I think she may just be too little for what I'm asking. I don't know.
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