Collie(8 weeks) & Goldendoodle(10 weeks) raised together?

Go Back   Dog Forum > Keeping and Caring for Dogs > Dog Training and Behavior > Puppy Help

Collie(8 weeks) & Goldendoodle(10 weeks) raised together?

This is a discussion on Collie(8 weeks) & Goldendoodle(10 weeks) raised together? within the Puppy Help forums, part of the Dog Training and Behavior category; So one & half days ago my family went to a pet store to buy a collie who's eight weeks and we ended up also ...

User Tag List

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-08-2011, 01:11 AM
  #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Collie(8 weeks) & Goldendoodle(10 weeks) raised together?

So one & half days ago my family went to a pet store to buy a collie who's eight weeks and we ended up also getting a goldendoodle that is 10 weeks. . Now before you say it.. I know what i've read about getting two puppies at the same time is a bad idea and now the deed is done. Now my family has a long history with the collies. They are both males.

We are a family of 5. Two adults, Two 19 year olds and one 14 year old. We normally have two - four people home everyday who would be very involved with the puppies. The goldendoodle is everything you would want a puppy to be (least in my thoughts) Loving, smart, funny, loyal, etc. The 8 week old collie is very ..non social, smart (specially on a leash once he finally got used to it so far). We understand that we have to separate them from their crate they are now sharing since the little one is pretty much only seems to be bonding with the goldendoodle.

Our concerns are:

Can we automatically separate them in different rooms or should we start slow?
How much time apart should they spend?
What do we do when we need to separate them in the house?
How do we handle feeding them so they don't fight with the bowls?
how to avoid aggression during feeding?
How to avoid them turning aggressive against other dogs?
Should we buy the same toys for both of them?
Rare case of only one person:
How do we handle walking one right after nap time when the other might pee in cage?


Tips on training a goldendoodle?(he's our first goldendoodle)
How will they be older in their years?
Any tips at all?

Serious answers only please!

Thank you!
ace130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 05:11 AM
  #2
Senior Member
 
Tess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 13,331
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Oh Dear! You are certainly going to have your hands full!

I'd recommend you get a couple of very good books, right away, and start reading up on raising puppies. Even if you've raised a puppy before, I find these books extremely helpful.

Puppy Primer

Before and After Getting your Puppy Before and After Getting your Puppy




You have an extremely challenging 6 months coming up. Hope you and your family have a lot of time to devote to the project of raising puppies. Its more or less like having a 2 year old in the house... er two, 2 year olds in your case!
Tess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2011, 05:03 PM
  #3
Senior Member
 
tankstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Toronto Area, ON
Posts: 862
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
you certanly have your hands full, not only 2 puppies, but 2 pet store (AKA puppy mill dogs) puppies at that

I suggest training both seperetly. walks seperatly, eating, play ect.

Hopefully you have money saved. vet care for 2 puppies is going to be alot, neuter. not to mention in 12 years 2 elderly dogs. who didnt come from good breedings will possibly need a ton of health help as they both age.
To top it off every 6-8 weeks for the 'doodle to the groomers.

proper socialization will be a massive help in avoiding dog aggression. But even so, one or both can still be DA or dog reactive in the future.

Since these at petstore dogs. id start looking for puppy classes ASAP and get them in. They were more then likley taken from their litters way to early and probably missed out on very important social skills from their litters.
tankstar is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 11-09-2011, 06:14 PM
  #4
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 63
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
you will need to be spending a minimum of 30 mins grooming the doodle daily as well as taking him to the groomers every 4-6 weeks depending on the coat. you can teach the dogs that they are not to eat from the others bowl at all, just tell them to leave it. I would get them in a puppy class and do plenty of training and socialisation individually.

Last edited by kmes; 11-09-2011 at 07:59 PM.
vicky0123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2011, 07:54 PM
  #5
Dog Forum ModeraTHOR
 
kmes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 11,909
Mentioned: 486 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Good points and info from Tess and Tankstar!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ace130 View Post
Can we automatically separate them in different rooms or should we start slow?
Personally I would have crated/seperated them from day one. They can of course play together when supervised, but they need to be walked, trained, played with, and crated seperately.

Quote:
How much time apart should they spend?
I would crate them for the night, each in his own crate. I would also seperate them when no one is home to watch them.

Quote:
What do we do when we need to separate them in the house?
You can place each in his own crate. Or you could have 2 puppy proofed rooms, perhaps the kitchen and bathroom. You can also close doors and put up baby gates/x-pens.

Quote:
How do we handle feeding them so they don't fight with the bowls?
Feed them on a schedule and each should have their own bowl.
Put down their dishes in seperate locations and pick up dishes when they are done. It is also a good idea for someone supervise to be sure that they do not try and get into each others dishes.

Quote:
how to avoid aggression during feeding?
What do you mean by aggression?
If you mean fighting with each other, then the answer is going to be to manage them so that they never have the opportunity. I covered management pretty well above.
If you mean Resource Guarding from people, then please read this thoroughly!
https://www.dogforum.com/dog-behavior...fication-7511/

Quote:
How to avoid them turning aggressive against other dogs?
Sign up for puppy kingergarten or other such classes offering plenty of socialization. Also get them out and about. You will want them to have many positive interactions with other dogs.
However, like Tankstar said, you may still find that you have a reactive or aggressive dog despite socialization as a puppy. Perhaps read this just so you are prepared! https://www.dogforum.com/dog-behavior...tration-12538/

Quote:
Should we buy the same toys for both of them?
It really depends on the toy but in many cases, yes you will want duplicates to help eliminate competition. I have multiples of anything my dogs like to chew (cow hooves, bully sticks,etc.) or any toy involving food (kongs and other food puzzles/food dispensing toys).
I also supervise my dogs when they have higher value toys such as their kongs. The only time they have them when I am not present is if they are crated.

Quote:
Rare case of only one person:
How do we handle walking one right after nap time when the other might pee in cage?
Assuming they are crated in seperate locations, you could quietly take one out without disturbing the other. Then once the first puppy has gone potty, bring him back in and take the other outside.
Otherwise, I guess you would want to either take both out (would probably be difficult since they will probably want to play) or take out the one most likely to have an accident first.

Quote:
Tips on training a goldendoodle?(he's our first goldendoodle)
How will they be older in their years?
Any tips at all?
Train him the same way you would any other dog!
These youtube channels are really great!
kikopup's Channel - YouTube
tab289's Channel - YouTube
As far as personality, the goldendoodles I know are over the top hyper...

I hope that you take a close look at the forum. There are tons of great sticky theads on all sorts of topics including Housetraining, Loose Leash Walking, and dog behavior. This is also a lot of great information you can learn by reading the questions and answers in other threads.
kmes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
?? about mom & pup relationship at 6 weeks Squirrelflight Puppy Help 1 10-27-2011 07:32 AM
Getting big! 14 weeks old lexic Dog Pictures and Videos 5 10-13-2011 04:20 PM
Glacier at 8 weeks and ~11 weeks pawzaddict Dog Pictures and Videos 20 12-10-2010 10:55 PM
Quick question about food for 11 weeks goldendoodle ghengis Dog Food 4 02-11-2010 09:24 AM
Need help First pup under the age of 8 weeks provencowgirl Puppy Help 53 12-11-2009 09:29 PM


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.