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Old 12-15-2012, 11:22 AM
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Earlier this year the rescue I worked with had to let 20 dogs go to death row because they were full from cleaning up one of these operations. I'm fine with being labelled petty if it means we don't have to waste space cleaning up these messes.
This all just churns my stomach. What are the laws in Canada with these so called mills, Pet Stores Etc.
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Earlier this year the rescue I worked with had to let 20 dogs go to death row because they were full from cleaning up one of these operations. I'm fine with being labelled petty if it means we don't have to waste space cleaning up these messes.
That right there is what these "I got my pup from a mill/broker/pet store and it's fine!" people don't understand or try to.... Maybe if they had to witness just one euthanasia of a pound/shelter dog, it would make an impact.... How sad.
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This all just churns my stomach. What are the laws in Canada with these so called mills, Pet Stores Etc.
Maybe should be another thread,.
Getting better - petstores in my town are no longer allowed to sell puppies. Instead they pull and foster rescues from the shelter. Larger operations get shut down when they find them. BYBs are really hard to police.
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Getting better - petstores in my town are no longer allowed to sell puppies. Instead they pull and foster rescues from the shelter. Larger operations get shut down when they find them. BYBs are really hard to police.
That's what the one petstore that sells live animals does now too. It's really great.
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That right there is what these "I got my pup from a mill/broker/pet store and it's fine!" people don't understand or try to.... Maybe if they had to witness just one euthanasia of a pound/shelter dog, it would make an impact.... How sad.
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Crock, we had to do that at the end of the day, that was the time I dreaded the most. It was my job to hold and roll the vein for the Vet.
To feel the life leave, all the while the poor dog is shaking in my arms, is something I will never forget, and bothers me to this day.

I wish it was a law, to have all owners of any kind of unethical breeding practices be made to witness, or even take part in the process.
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Crock, we had to do that at the end of the day, that was the time I dreaded the most. It was my job to hold and roll the vein for the Vet.
To feel the life leave, all the while the poor dog is shaking in my arms, is something I will never forget, and bothers me to this day.

I wish it was a law, to have all owners of any kind of unethical breeding practices be made to witness, or even take part in the process.
We did euths throughout the day--sometimes I would do 3-5 a day (felt like the "tech of death"). These were usually pets, though, so I knew they were at least loved and it was "easier." I had my ways of turning "off" the switch so I wouldn't cry. But that clinic was also a pound for a nearby small town--those euths bothered me the most--strays and lost/never looked for dogs that we took care of and then had to put down. A few of us looked for adopters, but there was a stretch when it wasn't felt to be a priority by everyone involved (vet clinic first/AC policy); our city's shelter was usually only able to take small dogs from us. There was one dog in particular that I took care of for a couple weeks, and they put him down on a day I didn't work because they knew it would upset me--still bothers me to this day that we didn't save him. Now, with a new person in charge of them, they are able to find new homes for most (actually, all of them last I checked but it's been awhile).
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We did euths throughout the day--sometimes I would do 3-5 a day (felt like the "tech of death"). These were usually pets, though, so I knew they were at least loved and it was "easier." I had my ways of turning "off" the switch so I wouldn't cry. But that clinic was also a pound for a nearby small town--those euths bothered me the most--strays and lost/never looked for dogs that we took care of and then had to put down. A few of us looked for adopters, but there was a stretch when it wasn't felt to be a priority by everyone involved (vet clinic first/AC policy); our city's shelter was usually only able to take small dogs from us. There was one dog in particular that I took care of for a couple weeks, and they put him down on a day I didn't work because they knew it would upset me--still bothers me to this day that we didn't save him. Now, with a new person in charge of them, they are able to find new homes for most (actually, all of them last I checked but it's been awhile).
It was tough, Crock, very tough, esp the people that would bring them in because they had a litter, or just got tired of them.
People just don't change.
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It was tough, Crock, very tough, esp the people that would bring them in because they had a litter, or just got tired of them.
People just don't change.
Thank goodness we only had one newborn litter of three pups brought in for euth in the two years I was there--a couple of us techs fostered them but only one survived. Freaking owner of the mother dog had left them outside, mom had not been feeding them, and he didn't even realize one was already dead when he brought it in. Anyways, I digress before this gets too OT.
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We bought both of our Labradoodles from them and we couldn't be more pleased. Both of our boys are the love of our lives. They are healthy, happy and just amazing.
I was first recommended to them by two of our neighbours who also bought their dogs from them (one Japanese Spitz and the other is a Moodle) I found them to be very professional, helpful and spoke with us for over an hour when we picked up our boys. You will find that there seems to be a lot of "petty" politics amongst breeders and shelters so your head will be spinning when you get all kinds of advice from breeders and shelters. Our dogs and my neighbours dogs have excellent temperaments and yes there are strict laws against puppy farms so there is no chance our dogs have come from a puppy farm. Best of luck.

Go look for the laws regulating commercial breeding of dogs, aka puppy mills/farms. Basically all I have to do is put the dogs in an itty bitty cages, a beagle can be legally kept in a cage the size of a dish washer, keep the cages clean, and provide the dogs with food and water. I do not have to ever let the dogs out of the cage. I do not have to have the dogs health checked. I don't have to take them to the vet unless they get sick. I'm allowed to legally breed the female as often as I like. Now that's if I register with the gov.

Say I don't register, after all I'm way out in the country 10 to 1 I won't get reported, I build some kennels, or get some cages, slap the dogs in them, toss food to them and spray water into buckets with a hose, never clean up the cages, never let the dogs out of them, just breed them and sell the puppies.

If you feel comfortable buying puppies that came form either of those fine, that's on you. I don't, I don't want to contribute to the suffering of the breeding dogs.

The other thing is that NO reputable breeder is going to sell their puppies to a broker. That's right NONE. If you are buying a puppy from a broker it either came from a puppy mill, or a byb, and most byb are out to make money for themselves so they aren't selling to brokers.
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Heck, they don't even have to get them vet care when they get sick. The least expensive route is to kill them and don't think that they don't take that option more often than not. Some even perform c-sections themselves with no anesthesia so they can at least get the pups, regardless if mom dies.
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