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Old 05-01-2012, 11:21 AM
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Could I ask, I live London, UK. Does anyone know how much vaccinations, micro chipping, socializeation and puppy obidience classes are in the UK?
It can vary greatly by location...
Best bet would be to call a few vets and just ask.

As far as classes go, try searching these websites for trainers in your area.
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Were I in London, this is where I would personally be taking classes.
Domesticated Manners Group Classes & Workshops
Click on the classes for a more detailed description and prices.
Though it is important to remember that with a BC your going to need to go far above and beyond basic puppy classes. So this would be a great place to start but don't be surprised if you end up consistently in classes for 2+ years!
Honestly it is likely (as already mentioned by Failed slacker) that you'll end up taking 2+ classes a week. You'll also likely be starting new classes almost immediately after you've finished one, so be prepared not to be able to hang out with friend several days a week for a very long time.
And I know it seems a bit much, but with a dog like a BC you almost have to be involved in dog sports. It can easily take 2 years or more for a dog to learn agility and be able to compete, especially since it is likely a puppy won't be doing any jumping until atleast a year old and because you'll be learning yourself.

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A border could be potty-trained at 14 weeks - though it's more management than expecting the dog to tell you they have to go out. Prowl only had one "accident" after that (and this goes back to a border's intelligence). It was the middle of the night, he really had to go, and he needed a way to tell me that. Let's just say the method he decided to use meant I had to have a shower at 3am in the morning while the pillow was in the washer.

Oh, and more things to expect - waking up one day to have all your socks missing (because you don't go out without putting socks on. no socks means you'll stay). When that doesn't work, find all your **pants** missing the next day. Doors will be opened - they can figure out doorknobs and latches no problem. I regularly have to check my front door because Ratchet manages to unlock it. Dogs getting into bookcases. Not just getting up and rumaging around on their hind legs - physically crawling up into the bookshelves because it gives them the best ambush point (this also means you'll be walking past a bookshelf and randomly have flying border collies to the face).
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Hi, I have a great idea for you, PLEASE foster several border collies BEFORE you adopt one. This will give you an idea of EXACTLY what your life will be like. As a teen aren't you going to be driving soon, going to parties, sports events, etc. in the evenings? We have two Catahoulas, they need exercise just like the BC, and a "job to do" or the house turns into a disaster! Picture a mattress torn up, shoes demolished, kitchen cabinets gnawed on, contents ALL over the home, looking for the dog from 10pm until 8am in the morning bec. she escaped, AND WE HAVE A FENCED IN BACKYARD TO BOOT! You think you love this breed but until you have "lived them" you won't know. Please don't be a disservice to a pup who is looking for a forever home but due to an inexperienced uneducated owner...had to find another home!!! How heartbreaking.
Me and my parents are considering this. We have agreeded that if I can't handle fostering a bc for at least a month than we will look at other breeds. Thanks
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Me and my parents are considering this. We have agreeded that if I can't handle fostering a bc for at least a month than we will look at other breeds. Thanks
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Why don't you perhaps consider a rough collie? You get a lot of the same traits as his cousin the border, but without that extreme energy levels?
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As beautiful as they are they have way to much hair, and I read that they need to be grommed up to 2 times a day and shed quiet a bit. Also, my mum has a thing with animal hair. She really doesn't like it
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If your mom is unwilling to deal with animal hair then you should really get a low-shedding breed like a poodle or shih tzu (there are lists on the internet). Because you know when people say 'they don't shed a lot'? It means, they don't shed quite a bit during the off season (but still shed) and will crazy-shed up to two times a year (as in, you could make another dog out of that hair). If I recall, BC's are not on the list of low-shedding breeds and you may end up grooming it every day just to prevent your mom from having a freakout.

I can only compare it to my cats but during the off season a brushing a day keeps the hair out of my dishes and food. During the shedding season... nothing besides shaving them to the skin would get rid of all that hair. I could brush them until my shoulder fell off and it wouldn't put a dent in it. I have learned to eat cat hair just because I couldn't get rid of it all.

Since you live with your parents it would be a good idea to consider what they can and can't stand. A parent that doesn't like animal hair is the worst thing if you want an animal that can't be kept in your room. Either you buck up and start vaccuuming when you have the dog (trust me, your mom will want to get rid of it if she's vacuums), furminating it once a day, or pick one of the low-shedding breeds.
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As beautiful as they are they have way to much hair, and I read that they need to be grommed up to 2 times a day and shed quiet a bit. Also, my mum has a thing with animal hair. She really doesn't like it
Most dogs will require daily brushings to control shedding hair.
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Hi ,
Just a chuckle: A first time dog owner adopting a border collie is like getting behind the wheel of a Ferrari and not knowing how to drive!
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So true Pkelley! I am an experienced dog owner and I still wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole! Sometimes, I like to relax! I think a border would drive me nuts.
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Border collies are more lifestyle than pet. You've received a lot of good info.
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