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Old 04-30-2012, 08:40 PM
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Hi, I have a great idea for you, PLEASE foster several border collies BEFORE you adopt one. This will give you an idea of EXACTLY what your life will be like. As a teen aren't you going to be driving soon, going to parties, sports events, etc. in the evenings? We have two Catahoulas, they need exercise just like the BC, and a "job to do" or the house turns into a disaster! Picture a mattress torn up, shoes demolished, kitchen cabinets gnawed on, contents ALL over the home, looking for the dog from 10pm until 8am in the morning bec. she escaped, AND WE HAVE A FENCED IN BACKYARD TO BOOT! You think you love this breed but until you have "lived them" you won't know. Please don't be a disservice to a pup who is looking for a forever home but due to an inexperienced uneducated owner...had to find another home!!! How heartbreaking.
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Okay, I hear what your saying but I am determined to put in all the effort Into getting one. I don't mind sacrificing lie-ins and I'm more than happy to up the amount of excersise and I personally loved helping my aunt train her dog. I may be a first time dog owner but both my parents have experience with dogs as they had their own when they where younger. I watched the video that ZoesMum shared and I'm willing to buy 'smart toys'. I also have my futer planned out. When I go uni(if I go) I am still planning to keep up this routine
OK let me put it this way, would you want to have a kid to take care of while you're in collage?? This what it's like having a dog , they need to get rabies shots , nail cuts, taken care of when they get sick and vet bills can run very high. And dog food cost money too. Are your parents going to help with the cost of the dog too? What wil happen to the dog when you want to hang out with your friend all day?? Border Collies are high maintenance dogs and I think is selfish to get a dog that you're not capable of giving the proper care it will need to be a well balance dog.
I have a horrible feeling the dog will end in a dog shelter within a year.
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I think pkelley had an excellent suggestion. If you are bound and determined that a BC is the dog for you, why not foster one or two before you make your final decision? You'll be helping a dog in need AND you can get a better idea if a border collie really is a good fit for you and your family.
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A Border Collie Warning

http://www.bcrescue.org/bchorror.html
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I think pkelley had an excellent suggestion. If you are bound and determined that a BC is the dog for you, why not foster one or two before you make your final decision? You'll be helping a dog in need AND you can get a better idea if a border collie really is a good fit for you and your family.
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That is a good idea , and I would hope a good breeder would not sell a BC to a teenager . The breeder that raise my Standard Poodle will not ship out her her dogs, she want to meet the people before they buy one of her dog to made sure they can give the puppy a good home.
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OP you say you live in the ground floor flat of an estate? Do you hav even a small area which is fenced where you can take the puppy to potti, because otherwise you'll have to keep him leashed at ALL times when he sets paw outside the door. Does the other people on the estate have pets, especially cats, how are they going to react when your puppy escapes and starts chasing and herding their smaller cats? You mentioned your younger brother and sister, do they and their friendslove running around outside, doing what kids do best - run and scream? Puppy WILL see them as sheep without wool and try to herd them. Is the estate fenced? How is it fenced? BC's are extreme escape artists, mine have on more than one occasion climbed over a 5foot barbed wire fence, just this past week they have escpaped twice by finding the one weak spot in their 8m x 3m runs fence, burrowing underneath and going walkabout. Thankfully i live on a farm so that's not a big problem, but in a city... I shudder to think what could happen.
How is your siblings with picking up their toys, any puppy will see toys left on the floor as chew toys, no matter how many intelligent toys you buy him. How good are they at closing a door behind them and keeping it closed? A door left unlatched for a second and puppy goes walkabout by himself. I'm not trying to discourage you, well maybe a little, but like the other posters on this forum I just want you to be very aware of what you're getting yourself into. I have four BC's, befeore them, I had Jack Russels and I thought they were high maintanence. They weren't a patch on the Borders.
Your parents have said you can have a puppy, they have said yes to a BC, but do they really know what they've said yes to?
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Not really read all the responses but here's my input and my experience...

I adopted a 9 month old Border Collie x Springer Spaniel over a year ago. Seriously, you are going to need to put A LOT of work in, you need to think very carefully about this...you don't wanna get a puppy thinking you can manage it, then realise you can't when the dog's an adult / adolescent and have to give the dog over to a rescue...that happens too many times already

Now, my dog needs two hour-long off-lead walks a day. To be honest, he could probably use a little more but thankfully copes fairly well with this. His walks are in forests where he can swim, climb cliffs and chase squirrels, on the moor where he can run for miles and there are caves and such to explore...all filled with constant running and mental stimulation too.

After a walk, we give him his meal in a puzzle feeder. Then he's usually pooped and will sleep a few hours. Then he's up and ready for some training and play sessions, such as tuggy or fetch. This fills up another half hour and then he's usually willing to rest some more or play on his own. Later on, he has another hour walk, another puzzle feeder, and another bout of playing

If he's having a really crazy day he will need an extra half an hour walk, and usually something to chew or destroy like a rubber toy, football, raw bone etc.

Our dog had separation anxiety when we got him; collies are a very sensitive breed and tend to be clingy, and this shines through with our dog! We had to spend *months* crate training him so he thought the crate was the best place in the world, and we built it up to leaving him alone for five hours.

Just because BC are intelligent DOES NOT mean they are easier to train. Quite the opposite, they're always second guessing what you want. Their intelligence can also work against you, if Kasper's determined he can accomplish pretty much anything, especially if you don't want him to!

I'm not saying you can't have a BC in a flat. I lived in a flat the first 6 months we had Kasper, but at that time we were giving him 3 - 4 hours off-lead exercise a day. You can keep BC in a flat, but you HAVE to be prepared to put a helluva lot of effort in

Also, a 14 week old puppy most likely still won't be fully housetrained. If you have your heart set on a BC have you thought about adopting an older adult one? That way not only are you saving a life but the dog would also be much calmer, may have basic training and a recall, and need less exercise - just a thought!

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OP you say you live in the ground floor flat of an estate? Do you hav even a small area which is fenced where you can take the puppy to potti, because otherwise you'll have to keep him leashed at ALL times when he sets paw outside the door. Does the other people on the estate have pets, especially cats, how are they going to react when your puppy escapes and starts chasing and herding their smaller cats? You mentioned your younger brother and sister, do they and their friendslove running around outside, doing what kids do best - run and scream? Puppy WILL see them as sheep without wool and try to herd them. Is the estate fenced? How is it fenced? BC's are extreme escape artists, mine have on more than one occasion climbed over a 5foot barbed wire fence, just this past week they have escpaped twice by finding the one weak spot in their 8m x 3m runs fence, burrowing underneath and going walkabout. Thankfully i live on a farm so that's not a big problem, but in a city... I shudder to think what could happen.
How is your siblings with picking up their toys, any puppy will see toys left on the floor as chew toys, no matter how many intelligent toys you buy him. How good are they at closing a door behind them and keeping it closed? A door left unlatched for a second and puppy goes walkabout by himself. I'm not trying to discourage you, well maybe a little, but like the other posters on this forum I just want you to be very aware of what you're getting yourself into. I have four BC's, befeore them, I had Jack Russels and I thought they were high maintanence. They weren't a patch on the Borders.
Your parents have said you can have a puppy, they have said yes to a BC, but do they really know what they've said yes to?
I run into a BC at one of the park I take Marty to and when the BC see my dog he immediately want to start herding my small white dog! The owner of the BC does not let his dog play with other dogs and the poor BC looks bored to tears . I think it is really unfair to get a dog that will not get the proper care it need , like others been saying the dog will get very bored and rip the house apart out of boredom . And your parents will end up blaming the poor dog . I hope the OP will stop putting her needs before the dogs needs and wait to get a dog , there are too dogs being given up because the owners no longer think it a 'cute' little puppy anymore . The dog is not going stay a puppy forever that be picked up and carried around like a toy!
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Could I ask, I live London, UK. Does anyone know how much vaccinations, micro chipping, socializeation and puppy obidience classes are in the UK?
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Could I ask, I live London, UK. Does anyone know how much vaccinations, micro chipping, socializeation and puppy obidience classes are in the UK?
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