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Old 02-05-2013, 10:17 AM
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Hi all, I'm just looking for some ideas to teach my four month old BC pup to leave my cats alone. Even if only when told. I don't want to squash her herding instinct, her future lies with goat and sheep herding. Just ranch dog, no trails. The cats have all whacked her quite a few times but her prey drive is just so high she doesn't care. She's put off for a few secs and then goes right back to harassing the poor cat. The past few days she's also started to try and herd me. Jumping up in front of me and even nipping at my legs, shorts or whatever she can reach. I've tried telling her "NO", but it doesn't seem to be making much of an impression. I've also tried putting my herding stick between her and the cat, but she ignores it like it doesn't exist. The cats, especially the persian x siamese is at their wits' ends. She especially is more of a "bush dweller" than a "tree dweller" so she suffers the most.
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Redirect instead of just "no". Sit or down or look (at me) or something along those lines (and then PRAISE!!! when she does it). And then give the pup more exercise and more training in what IS correct to herd. There's quite a bit of truth to the saying that a tired puppy is a good puppy!
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Well, puppies generally have less self control than older dogs.

Our setters were merciless with the cats at that age.
Now, there is still pointing, stalking and flushing, but it is of a more reasonable intensity.

I'd be setting up "escape routes" for the cats; baby gates cats can leap over, doors fixed cat-width wide puppy cannot go through, cat trees to escape to and so forth.

In the long run, the cats and puppy will work things out.


BC's need a job. Get her one. Lots of training to keep her mind busy, so she does not have to make up so many of her own games such as herding you and the cats, although to some extent, this is what you get with a BC... so patience, understanding and management, as well as a sense of humor...
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If you get a cheap wooden baby gate with the plastic "netting" you can cut a hole in it just wide enough for the cats to go through. I know my cats are too scared/lazy to jump over baby gates so that's another solution.

Lots of perches is also handy.
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Hi everyone I should probably just clarify one thing: it's when the cats are outside that they get herded. My dogs live outside ( I live in South Africa so much milder weather than USA, etc) they get taken out once a day for what we call "catwatch" supervised outside playtime. When inside the cat usually just takes refuge on a table/ bed. Little Booger can't jump on the bed yet. Bella (cat) loves chasing the butterflies on the grass or stalking the birds in their feeder and then gets herded by the dogs. Difference is the adults can be called off. The pup not yet. Unfortunately this cat tends to panick and then runs. Unfortunately the little time between rising and "catwatch" is training time for big sis Jess. Herding training on the goats. Meg is still too young too accompany us. She might get hurt and also don't quite have the "heading instinct" yet so just chases and learns bad habits. She HATES being left behind, but her turn will come soon enough. Unfortunately the dogs are kept loose in the yard (fenced) and not kennelled so nowhere to put dogs where they can't access the cats.
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I'd be putting the pup on a 6 to 10 foot leash and attaching the leash to something, and giving her a stuffed kong or food puzzle to keep her busy while the cats have their yard time. No sense in continuing to allow her to reenforce the bad behavior. You could try teaching her leave it, but I'm not sure that she has enough self control for that yet.
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have you thought about going outside and giving the dogs some special time before catwatch time? Maybe you could play fetch or something to work their mind & burn off a little extra energy.

Do you actually work with these dogs or are they pets? If they are just pets, you are going to have to do interaction with the dog besides just leaving them outside with each other. They are just too smart for that kind amount of leisure. If they work, maybe leash the pup when the cats come out and allow the pup to observe the older B.C.s (it sounds like you have older ones...)
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