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Old 10-20-2011, 05:03 PM
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Barking pomenarian?

I'm considering to get a pomenarian. The problem is that I liven in an appartment building where barking will not be appreciated. As I work full time, I cannot watch the puppy all the time. I will be home at noon though, so he wouldn't be alone for longer than 4hours.
If I get this puppy, I'd take of a week from work to do as much as I can, but is it possible to teach a puppy to be alone and not bark that quickly?
How about if we would get a kitten simultaneously?

Or is this all overly ambitious and should I rather get a fish?
Please help, I don't want to get a puppy and not be able to take care of it properly
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:29 PM
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Most likely if the dog is alone, it won't bark too much.. I think you'd see more whining than barking in a puppy home alone and the whining tapers off once the pup realizes that it gets nothing for whining (no one there to give the pup attention, so the pup will stop whining when he or she realizes it). I have two barkers and they seem to do all their barking if I'm around in the house.. when we're gone we've yet to receive a complaint at least. I'd imagine if they were barking all day, I'd hear about it, haha.

If your building allows pets, I would say that there is probably going to be a certain level of tolerance for the occasional bark, especially during daytime hours when most people are either at work, or don't care (ie: not trying to sleep).

You CAN train a dog out of barking habits, but there's no one who can guarantee you how long it would take. There's also a possibility that your pup would not bark at all.

The main things that bother my dogs are strangers outside the house (we're at ground level) or a lot of banging/stomping around in the upstairs suite. So if there isn't a lot of noise going on, your dog probably wouldn't have much to be perturbed about. More than likely the dog won't bark just because she's home alone... there's usually stimulus involved of some kind that causes it.

I personally wouldn't bring home multiple pets at once, but that's not to say it couldn't work out either. If you did get a kitten AND a puppy at the same time, you'd want a way to separate them to ensure both remain safe from each other during periods of no supervision. Ultimately I think it would be best to bring the puppy home and know the dog's temperament first before you try bringing in another animal.

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If barking may be a problem, I'd opt for the kitten (or even better, two!) Every dog is going to bark, IMO, especially if they hear a noise... unless they're deaf. :-)
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Thanks for the comments already!

Just a kitten is not much of an option to me, I was thinking it would be nice to keep the puppy company? (haven't done much research, but I've heard it couple of times)

We live in a very quiet street, on the top floor. So there probably won't be too much distracting noise from the puppy. It's just that I've heard that pomenarians can be barkers, but they can also be taught not to bark.
But with my inexperience in raising I'd thought I'd ask some opinions
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In my experience, small dogs, in general, tend to be barkers and I personally find their barks ear-piercing lol. I don't think Poms are any worse than any other small dog.

I think you can train a dog to stop barking when you're around but I'm suspicious that if you're not home, all bets are off.

If you were to get a puppy and a kitten, I doubt it would make much of a difference regarding the barking. Besides, I would not leave either free to roam the house when you weren't home-- too much trouble to easily get into.

Taking a week off from work would only brush the surface of any training. Nothing will stick in a puppy's mind in only 1 week. Repetition is necessary.

Like I said, if barking may be a problem, then I'm not sure a puppy is a good idea (and kittens isn't an option for you... )
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omg, long night. I thought this said baking Pomeranian
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Lol, I don't want to eat puppies!
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Thanks for the comments already!

Just a kitten is not much of an option to me, I was thinking it would be nice to keep the puppy company? (haven't done much research, but I've heard it couple of times)
When we brought Sam home I sort of wondered if our cat would keep her company.. the answer is "It didn't work like that" What happened was that Samantha wanted to "play with" (chase) the cat, and the cat was not thrilled.

In the end we got a second dog (Jasper) and now those two keep each other company. The cat is finally coming around more often because the dogs like to play with each other, rather than him

I think it entirely depends on the dog and cat personalities though.

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We live in a very quiet street, on the top floor. So there probably won't be too much distracting noise from the puppy. It's just that I've heard that pomenarians can be barkers, but they can also be taught not to bark.
But with my inexperience in raising I'd thought I'd ask some opinions
Many small dogs bark and their barks are SO much fun haha. One person above said "ear piercing" and that would be Samantha.. she's got one of "those" barks Jasper on the other hand has a much lower bark that's just loud rather than ear-piercing. Again both of them only bark when there's something to bark at, and sometimes they growl a little when they chase each other around, but that's not very loud at all.

Pomeranians do have a higher pitched bark in my experience but also in my experience I don't get a lot of barking from the young pups.. maybe whining which isn't terribly loud, but not really barking. Sam only "found her voice" when she was closer to 6 months old. Prior to that you'd never know she could even bark at all. So when they start to find that voice, at that point you can start working on training.

You can most certainly train a dog not to bark when you aren't around. It's all about ensuring the dog is in a nice calm state and is well-trained. A well-trained dog (yet again in my experience) is far less likely to bark. They respect their owners which is huge, and they trust the owners. So when they hear noises, even when alone, they are far less likely to cause a fuss.

If your building allows pets, I personally see no reason why you shouldn't get one. There are many training opportunities you can do if problems arise and I personally wouldn't let the threat of a bark deter me from getting a dog, but that's just me and I would never let anything in the world make me "give up" my dogs. So you just have to consider yourself in this situation: If the dog starts to bark a lot and the neighbors complain (which I personally think is the absolute worst-case scenario), would you want to give that dog up? If the answer is "yes" then I wouldn't get a dog.

If the answer is "no, I'll do what it takes to find a balance and curb the problem" then I'd say go for it.
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@Sendiulino, thanks for your thoughts :-)

Obviously, if our puppy does turn out to be a barker, I don't want to get rid of it, but solve the problem. But since I'm not experienced with dogs, it seems like a good idea to get opinions from people who know more. I've already read a few books on dogs, but it's hard to determine if my living circumstances will be right to raise a puppy.

The more I find out before I get a puppy, the likelier that I can prevent it to start barking in the first place right?

Getting a second dog won't be an option for now I guess (too expensive to buy both at the same time), and our appartment is not that big :-)

Also, I think it wouldn't be a problem if the puppy barked when he hears a noise, but if on the other hand, it would be excessive and constantly, that wouldn't be ok with the neighbours...

We'll see, I still got to convince my boyfriend who isn't sure he's ready for the workload a puppy would take... (and I don't want to minimize the workload either, I realize that the puppy won't raise itself)
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Have you considered adoption of an older dog from a shelter, rather than buying a puppy, re: your boyfriend's concerns about the work. Not to say an adult dog isn't work, but there is definitely a difference between puppies and adults. Definitely check out local rescues and shelters for dogs in need.. there may be smaller dog that you fall in love with even if it isn't a pom

My husband I don't think was ready for the craziness a puppy brought, but we both adapted pretty well, and somehow we managed to get to the 6 month stage mostly unscathed Though we both agree: All our future dogs will be adult rescues, rofl. No more puppies for us. (and Jasper was an adult adoption)

If you do buy a puppy, remember to never buy from pet stores, and to make sure you do your background research on the breeder you select. There are SO many BYBs (Back yard breeders) out there posing as REAL breeders when they are just exploiting dogs for money.
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