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Old 05-28-2014, 11:12 PM
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Unhappy Bad Couple of Days

Well, after things slowly getting better and better for Zeke and I, we have had a SHOCKING couple of days this week

His biting has intensified, he whines CONSTANTLY, his house training has backtracked significantly (went from having 1, if any, accidents inside to 3 or 4 a day!) and he is still crying on and off at night.

I know he is essentially the equivalent to a human 2 or 3 year old, but I am so frustrated!

To try and combat the biting I have been doing the '3 strikes' thing - 1. Replace my hand/foot with a toy, 2. Replace with toy again, 3. Leave the room for a couple of minutes. It's not working! As soon as I come back he bites harder! And on top of that he whines while I'm gone. Honestly I wouldn't see him at all if I went to a different room every single time he bites at the moment!

Nothing has changed in regards to the house training, I still take him outside on a schedule and he still asks to go outside, but he seems to be waiting until he's indoors to do his business lately!

I'm so frustrated! After all that progress here we are backtracking

HELP!
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:17 PM
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Koda was like this, plus jumping, when I first got her. The only thing that would help would be a LOT more exercise, and reward like MAD when she was too tired to move/sleeping. Things get worse before they get better, keep trying and stick it out! If you need a bit more away time from him for a bit that's totally understandable. Take a bit to pamper yourself, and you can do this
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:31 PM
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Thank you @Kwenami that helps - Good to know this is semi normal and Zeke isn't broken! I swear he turns into the devil himself after about 5pm!
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It can also help to exercise over shorter more numerous sessions throughout the day. Even if its just getting him to zoom around for 10 minutes and flop. always take advantage of zoomies!!!
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Ahahaha She was way worse-it wasn't just after 5 PM, and the jumping/mouthing when your dog can reach your face from ANYWHERE drove me absolutely crazy. It took a LOT of people's encouragement on DF to help me realize how to help her out, and keep me sane and *mostly* patient.

Backtracking happens. We all have to go back to the start and work again It DOES really and truly get better with training, as frustrating as it is in between!!
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LOL nope he isn't broken! He's a furry little landshark that is cleverly disguised as a cute puppy. The cuteness is a self defense mechanism, if they weren't cute they'd either be abandoned or killed.

Some other things to keep in mind with the biting is to not rile the puppy up, that means no rough playing, and to move as slow as possible around him. That was a hard one for me to play because I naturally tend to play rough and rile up puppies but it just makes it harder for the puppy to stay calm and to not go into attack mode.

When he can't calm down it may be one of two things, either he has to much energy or he's over tired. If you know he gets crazy around 5 PM try playing with him with a flirt pole around that time, it'll give him an appropriate target for his attack. If you know he's had plenty of exercise try putting him in his crate with a nice chew, dim the lights if you can, and leave him alone for 5 or 10 minutes, he'll likely fall asleep and be a sweet puppy when he wakes up.

The redirecting to a toy and leaving him if he keeps attacking you will work but it takes time, often weeks, for it to really click with them so keep that up. Also make sure to be 100% consistent with it.

Ignore the whining, if you answer it you reinforce it and he'll just keep whining to get you to come back. Wait till he's been quiet for 5 seconds before going in to him.

Ohhhh, as a puppy my old dog Shadow would pee outside, come back in and pee on my floor. Soooo frustrating!!! I swear I though I had some sort of defective puppy, and it was only after I joined DF that I discovered that that type of potty trouble isn't all that uncommon. The trick to fixing that is to do one of two things. Stay out with the puppy for around 5 minutes after he pees and see if he goes again, or bring him back in after he pees, keep him attached to you or in his crate, then bring him back out in 5 or 10 minutes to see if he pees again. What I've discovered is that with male puppies, I'm not sure about females, they will pee a little bit, for some reason not empty their bladders, and have to go again in 5 or 10 minutes.
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LOL nope he isn't broken! He's a furry little landshark that is cleverly disguised as a cute puppy. The cuteness is a self defense mechanism, if they weren't cute they'd either be abandoned or killed.
HAHAHA this made me laugh! That is the perfect definition - A furry little landshark!

Thanks Rain. I don't actually own a Flirtpole but I will absolutely go and buy one ASAP! Would be the perfect thing for him at night so he can't get near my hands. I think the reason he is so hyperactive around 5pm is because he's overtired. He gets 2 walks a day so I don't think he needs anymore exercise. He just doesn't seem to be able to settle! I pick him up when I see him looking tired so I can try and help him settle down but he instantly tries to bite my hands or face! Such a little jerk!
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I think picking him up when he's overtired might be asking for trouble, and it's obviously not working if he starts biting! He'd probably find it easier to settle if you leave him to lie where he is or send him to his crate... I like Rain's suggestion of creating a nice soothing atmosphere to encourage him to go to sleep.
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If I remember correctly, your pup is a teeny tiny pup. He's going to be a land shark overtired puppy. The trick is learning when he needs to nap and when he needs exercise. You need to be able to figure out the difference. Sam and I took a 4 mile walk yesterday and he came back and crashed. Around 10:00 he woke up and started attention barking at me and being a butt. I knew it was over tiredness. I did what I call the cuddle attack. I literally grab him and snuggle him with his belly up and lay down next to him and rub his belly, and he calms down and falls asleep next to me. Otherwise if I ignored him he would have continued to bark and annoyed my roommates.

Definitely get a flirt pole, walk him as much as you can and take him to play with other puppies as much as you can. It's the easiest way to get out the zooms I've found without tiring you out too. As far as the landsharking goes, I would definitely get him a puppy play pen (I remember you saying you don't use crates in Australia) so you can play with him in the pen and when he starts being naughty, you can just leave the pen rather than leave the room. Kind of easier on you. This can also help him get better potty trained too since he's been having accidents.

Don't kill yourself over the potty accidents. He's still a baby and no baby is perfect. Don't punish him and just keep at it. Reward for outside and frequent outside, pen or tether inside. He will get it. When he whines, you REALLY need to ignore it. If he knows he gets your attention by crying, he will WAIL if it gets mom to come to him. By all means necessary. Don't talk to him, go to him, yell "Zeke, shush!" NOTHING. Leave the room. Give him a toy or chew to occupy him and he will be okay.

He's still a baby and he will be okay, we have all been through similar issues. My Sam had a slip up accident the other night when he was evidently too tired to scratch to go out and peed by my door. As I was putting his leash on, he peed again by my outside door. He's 7 months now. Slip ups happen. It's okay.

We are all here to help you, and the above Poster was right-puppies are adorable as a defense mechanism. We would leave them on the side of the road if they did all the horrible things they do otherwise!!
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If I remember correctly, your pup is a teeny tiny pup. He's going to be a land shark overtired puppy. The trick is learning when he needs to nap and when he needs exercise. You need to be able to figure out the difference. Sam and I took a 4 mile walk yesterday and he came back and crashed. Around 10:00 he woke up and started attention barking at me and being a butt. I knew it was over tiredness. I did what I call the cuddle attack. I literally grab him and snuggle him with his belly up and lay down next to him and rub his belly, and he calms down and falls asleep next to me. Otherwise if I ignored him he would have continued to bark and annoyed my roommates.

Definitely get a flirt pole, walk him as much as you can and take him to play with other puppies as much as you can. It's the easiest way to get out the zooms I've found without tiring you out too. As far as the landsharking goes, I would definitely get him a puppy play pen (I remember you saying you don't use crates in Australia) so you can play with him in the pen and when he starts being naughty, you can just leave the pen rather than leave the room. Kind of easier on you. This can also help him get better potty trained too since he's been having accidents.

Don't kill yourself over the potty accidents. He's still a baby and no baby is perfect. Don't punish him and just keep at it. Reward for outside and frequent outside, pen or tether inside. He will get it. When he whines, you REALLY need to ignore it. If he knows he gets your attention by crying, he will WAIL if it gets mom to come to him. By all means necessary. Don't talk to him, go to him, yell "Zeke, shush!" NOTHING. Leave the room. Give him a toy or chew to occupy him and he will be okay.

He's still a baby and he will be okay, we have all been through similar issues. My Sam had a slip up accident the other night when he was evidently too tired to scratch to go out and peed by my door. As I was putting his leash on, he peed again by my outside door. He's 7 months now. Slip ups happen. It's okay.

We are all here to help you, and the above Poster was right-puppies are adorable as a defense mechanism. We would leave them on the side of the road if they did all the horrible things they do otherwise!!
Zeke will be 15 weeks old on Monday, so yeah he's still a baby. I just need to keep reminding myself of that! My parents have 2 dogs, and one of which LOVES Zeke, so I take him over there at the very least twice a week and that tires him out something chronic. He's a dream to take care of after a visit with Tilly!

I feel awful getting so frustrated, because I KNOW he can't really help it, but I really got my hopes up over the last week or so with how well he's been doing and I thought we turned a corner. My own fault I guess!

Thanks for your help everyone, these suggestions are much appreciated!
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