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Old 08-20-2013, 10:59 AM
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Alternatives to kenneling puppy during human dinner?

The last 2 weeks, Dany (4 1/2 months) has become very very interested in me and my husbands dinner. We used to be able to prepare meals and eat them without any problems.

She is now barking and nipping us during dinner time. Even while we prepare food. This started around the time we switched her food- which she now loves. It also doesn't help that she had been in her kennel during the work day. I have been taking her to the dog park for an hour before dinner to get exercise and stimulation. We also give her a frozen kong while we are eating, but the second it's gone she comes and barks and nips.

Just wondering how other people handle this situation. I hate putting her in her kennel again, even for a short while but it is becoming a necessity.

Thanks for the suggestions!
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:16 AM
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We had a similar problem with our youngest, Minnie. While we never gave her human food she was always interested in us when we were sitting at the table for dinner. We attempted to crate her during dinner, but she just barked and whine the entire time. We tried tethering her to an ottoman, etc which worked well but the minute we untethered her, it was back to her old ways.

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We crated our dog in the beginning during dinner. We also put up a baby gate so she couldn't enter the kitchen while we were preparing food.
Then slowly as training progressed (a solid leave it, go to your place and stay) we started having her out and sent her to her place with a chew during dinner. If she didn't stay, we crated her again etc.
I wouldn't use a squirt bottle. I use these for good things like misting her when she's hot but not for punishment.
Personally, simple management brought me to success much quicker - my dog was out of control when we got her and used to scavenge everything edible or not and gobble it down in a split second - and the success still lasts.
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We had a similar problem with our youngest, Minnie. While we never gave her human food she was always interested in us when we were sitting at the table for dinner. We attempted to crate her during dinner, but she just barked and whine the entire time. We tried tethering her to an ottoman, etc which worked well but the minute we untethered her, it was back to her old ways.
Just because it's not a shock collar doesn't make it okay. First of all, it's a bad idea to make a dog afraid of water/sprayers. That will come back to bite you. Secondly, it is far better to teach your dog what you want them to do. (You may have just taught the dog not to approach you when you have a sprayer in hand, nothing more.)

So, you want this baby dog to leave you alone when you eat? Don't start training there. That's too much to ask, especially of a baby. Start training "go to your mat/crate" when you're not preparing food and nothing exciting is happening. Eventually, you'll be able to work up to using that command while food is present. In the meantime, crate the dog, it's fine.


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In the beginning we would give Gus his antler only during meal times. As he grew, we opted to crate him as he now just falls asleep unless we have company that's the only time he will bark during meals now.
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Just because it's not a shock collar doesn't make it okay. First of all, it's a bad idea to make a dog afraid of water/sprayers. That will come back to bite you. Secondly, it is far better to teach your dog what you want them to do. (You may have just taught the dog not to approach you when you have a sprayer in hand, nothing more.)

So, you want this baby dog to leave you alone when you eat? Don't start training there. That's too much to ask, especially of a baby. Start training "go to your mat/crate" when you're not preparing food and nothing exciting is happening. Eventually, you'll be able to work up to using that command while food is present. In the meantime, crate the dog, it's fine.

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"Go to your mat" is my favorite method for this. It's giving the dog a default place to be while you eat. Jayne always curls up in her bed while we eat. I also like to give her dinner at the same time as so she's occupied. You could also try filling a kong up with some peanut butter/baby food and her kibble and freezing it then giving it to her when you eat.
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However strange it sounds, I will give Charlie a few ice-cubes in a bowl whenever we are eating. I did the same with Martin ( then more than a few). It's probably the climate, but ice is really as attractive as any food to my dogs and it doesn't make them fat. Works great in outdoor restaurants as well ( here), since the beer usually comes in a bucket of ice-cubes, so you just scope up a handful and put in the bowl you brought. My wife is so soft-hearted that I know that it's impossible for her to eat and not "share" with the pet, so whatever "never feed the dog food while you eat" wouldn't work anyway.
By now, my dogs thinks humans life of ice-cubes. Try it, might work for you.
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...Why can't she just be in her kennel?
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Thanks for the advice! We got her bed for the dinning room area and are working on a lie down cue for her. We also got a larger kong that now fits her entire meal!

I have actually tried ice cubes while cooking.. it works for a few minutes. I've heard of freezing a chicken broth/water mix but have not tried that.

I might just be being silly about not wanting her on her kennel. I'm still adjusting to her being in there during the work day. Between food prep and eating that could be another hour plus in the kennel. It just breaks my heart to here her barking in there.

We just need to teach her good manners. So right now we are focusing on reinforcing any time she isn't barking and increasing our use of the slow cooker
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Thought I'd post an update. We've been working on the cue 'mat' during dinner time since I made the first post 2 weeks ago. Today was the first day that Dany saw us eating and went right to her mat instead of barking at us.

There is still more we need to work on with this cue but it was definitely a milestone today and reminded me of how helpful training can be for the relationship between me and my pup
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