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Old 12-31-2010, 12:34 AM
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All sorts of questions! (When to start training what?)

Okay, so, as some of you might be aware of, I am bringing home a male standard poodle puppy on January 28th. Hopefully, this next month will fly by and I won't fall dead with excitement, though I cannot guarantee that I won't, so I apologize if your advice is wasted on me

I've read literally six different puppy books and countless dog books, clicker training books, positive reinforcement in general, dog behaviour, etc, and we already have a family dog who, at the risk of sounding cocky, I am very good with, and I've taught her some fun tricks and the basic idea of housetraining, (When we adopted her, she had some very bad habits pretty deeply ingrained... from what I can tell, she was punished whenever she made a mistake, and probably physically) so I feel pretty prepared.

But! This will be my first big dog, as our current girl weighs a dainty twelve pounds (She's a miniature poodle) and I feel a little nervous still, so I thought I'd ask some questions!

Is training a big dog harder than training a small one?
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What are the main differences between raising a small dog and raising a large one?

Please answer these two at length if you feel up to it!

Another issue I'm having is pinning down exactly when to train puppy what.
Does anyone know a good book that details at what age you start different kinds of training, such as leash training or basic obedience?
I know you can start these things when a pup is very small, but I'm a little fuzzy on the details and I thought the dog forum members would probably know where to look for this sort of thing.

Besides a book, online articles or even posts on here that relate to this would be awesome to be linked to

If you've got any other tips and tricks as well, feel free to clue me in! I've studied so hard but I feel a little overwhelmed knowing he's coming home in a month!
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Is training a big dog harder than training a small one?
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What are the main differences between raising a small dog and raising a large one?
Cost of food They obviously take up more room so sometimes people don't allow their big dogs to do things their small dogs do, like sit on the furniture. It is something you will need to determine in your household.
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Another issue I'm having is pinning down exactly when to train puppy what.
Does anyone know a good book that details at what age you start different kinds of training, such as leash training or basic obedience?
There is no perfect schedule. A lot of people think its important to teach the puppies name, hand targeting which helps with recalls, and a beginning recall. I did name first but never thought to do the others, I think its a good idea to start there.

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If you've got any other tips and tricks as well, feel free to clue me in! I've studied so hard but I feel a little overwhelmed knowing he's coming home in a month!
I think you have done plenty of research I would wait till he gets home and give him a couple days of love and affection before jumping into extensive training (teaching him his name when he gets home will be great) so he has time to settle in.

Are you planning on clicker training?
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OoooOo I am excited for you! I really like toy poodles!
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Mechanically it can be...much more bending over. I found heeling is much easier to teach a larger dog...with my little guys I teach most things by sitting on the ground...brainwise tho...its the same.

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hahaha, food, vet bills, etc. I was lucky that my dog that was reactive (barks, lunges, growls etc) was only 15lbs...not 115lbs. So while I was doing his rehab training, people didn't avoid us. Which reminds me, people and kids will try and grab and pick up your dog. ALOT.
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Another issue I'm having is pinning down exactly when to train puppy what.
Does anyone know a good book that details at what age you start different kinds of training, such as leash training or basic obedience?
there is no age limit. Som' guide dog places start training puppies before their eyes even open...by 3.5 months old my pup had 10 behaviors on cue, including a sneeze...lol...they are sponges at the young age. I'd worry about what the dog physically can't do, vs mentally. If you decide to clicker train, your puppy will want to train and play with you ALOT. So you can teach alot very quickly if you so choose.



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All great answers! Thanks for the nerve-calming. I'm taking your advice very much to heart.

I do plan on clicker training him! I think it'll be fun and it's been proven to me so many times to be very, very effective, especially with regard to house-training. I'll also be crate training him, but not as a housebreaking aid necessarily as I'll be able to supervise him 24/7- he'll get short "crate-breaks", though, and his bed and toys will be around and in the crate so he gets used to it as "his place". I think if I get him used to it slowly when he's little it'll be much easier if I ever need to leave him alone when he's older. Less stressful for him.

My mom doesn't mind if he's allowed on the furniture, as long as there aren't any guarding issues, especially since poodles don't shed.

I agree that teaching his name is probably the first important thing. I'm going to use it as a cue for "pay attention", so eye contact and attention on me will get clicks, hopefully for longer periods of time as he gets older. I'd like to start teaching him a rudimentary recall and, as you said, some targeting, but the first thing I really want is a basic "leave-it", as we never succesfully taught this to our mini and, though I wish she would grasp it as well, with a bigger dog I think it's very important.

I'm going to try this technique, as I've made good headway with our slightly dippy dog using it.

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Got two more questions for you, if you don't mind.
+ At what age do you think it is best to neuter a male dog? I'm leaning towards a little younger, five months or so, but I'd love to hear a different opinion. We had our current dog spayed at approx. a year (She was adopted) but I'm not sure about neutering. (I'll definitely be asking my vet about this as well.)
+ I'm concerned about resource guarding. Our current dog does this occasionally, though I'm working on it with her, and only when the food isn't her normal food- AKA a piece of pizza she snitched from the counter. *sigh* However, as I said, she weighs twelve pounds, so if she gets a little growly it's fairly easy to ignore her. But I can't have that with a 40-50 pound dog. Any advice on how to prevent that early-on? Or is that only necessary if a dog is obviously prone to it?

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Got two more questions for you, if you don't mind.
+ At what age do you think it is best to neuter a male dog? I'm leaning towards a little younger, five months or so, but I'd love to hear a different opinion. We had our current dog spayed at approx. a year (She was adopted) but I'm not sure about neutering. (I'll definitely be asking my vet about this as well.)
This can be a very personal decision. Many people have differing opinions.
If I were you I would do a bit of research online and also talk to your vet about this.

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+ I'm concerned about resource guarding. Our current dog does this occasionally, though I'm working on it with her, and only when the food isn't her normal food- AKA a piece of pizza she snitched from the counter. *sigh* However, as I said, she weighs twelve pounds, so if she gets a little growly it's fairly easy to ignore her. But I can't have that with a 40-50 pound dog. Any advice on how to prevent that early-on? Or is that only necessary if a dog is obviously prone to it?
If you are concerned about RG play a lot of trading games with your pup!
Also teaching a solid "Drop it" and "Leave it" definitely helps!
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If you are concerned about RG play a lot of trading games with your pup!
Also teaching a solid "Drop it" and "Leave it" definitely helps!
Ditto this! I started teaching my pup to give me whatever she has from day one and now she drops something the instant I give the command and she even lets my kids take stuff out of her mouth.
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Oh another thing I thought of is when your feeding him it's good to get him used to you standing right there next to him when he eats and occasionally stick you hand in the bowl and move the food around so you won't have problems with that later.
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Training look at this one at 2 months. Poodles are very smart and pretty easy to train. Clicker training is great and you will be amazed how quickly they learn.
big or small they learn the same way. Big dogs can get bloat so look it up
Ash's Mystical Poodles Breeders. What We're Learning About Bloat
Neutering around 6 months is good for a male.

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