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Old 09-19-2013, 06:10 AM
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Hello all,
Just joined the site and in need of some advice.
I get my 8 week old lhasa on the 4th of October. We are going to be crate training him and I'm going to purchase a medium sized cage and vet bed.
After reading alot about potty training advice my plan is to do the following:
The crate will be kept in our living room, for the first few nights or even a week sleep on the couch beside the pup (right next to the back door) feed and water a few hours before bed an let him out just before bed, get up once or twice during the night when he needs and take him outside to eliminate and then in the morning when I get up.
Do you think this is the best idea as he will be out during the day every 1 or 2 hours to get used to peeing outside and not always on puppy pads or do u think I should put a pad in his cage at night incase of any accidents or will this make it harder for training?
After a week or so will I be able to leave him in the living room himself while I go to bed and just get up with an alarm to let him out?
Really need advice as this is our first time.
Also how long does it usually take for them to start getting the hang of it and for their bladders to start strengthening so he doesn't need to eliminate much during the night?
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Small dogs can take longer but it usually takes about 3 months to potty train. I would not put a pad in the crate because you DO NOT want the pup to go in the crate. 8 weeks is young to take the pup away from the mom she will not have enough time to complete the potty training they do which helps it go faster for you. You will have to keep the pup in the crate at night and any time you cannot keep your eyes on her. It is easier to use a towel in the crate because you maybe washing it if there is an accident. It is good to keep the crate next to your bed at night so you can hear the pup is she needs to go out in the night which at that age will defiantly happen a couple of times at night. Here are a couple videos to help with crate and potty training. The last meal at night should be around 6 pm so there is time for digestion before bed time.
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Welcome.

These are our handy sticky posts for crate training and for house training: https://www.dogforum.com/housebreakin...-how-tos-2135/ and https://www.dogforum.com/dog-training...ning-faq-3974/

I would strongly recommend you put the crate in your bedroom. Think of puppies as baby dogs, not mini dogs. He'll need companionship to feel secure without his littermates. Even at nine weeks, he's not old enough to be expected to sleep on his own without someone nearby. Plus, Lhasas are companion dogs, so he'll probably always be most comfortable and happy sleeping, if not on your bed, that at least in your room.

Is there any particular reason you do not want your pup to sleep in your room? Maybe we can give input on that.
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Thank you all for the advice and I'll be sure to watch the videos.

I don't have a problem taking his crate up to bed with me, I meant to say I'll be sleeping in our spare room downstairs next to the back door with him in the room so it's easier for during the night and taking him out to pee.

How long before he can start sleeping in a different room and not next to me?
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How long before he can start sleeping in a different room and not next to me?
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I would keep him close until he is completely potty trained. Every time he goes in the crate is just that much longer until he is trained. You want to try really hard not to leave him in the crate unattended. It will be a while until he can hold it. If you need at some point to leave him unattended for a few hours it would be better to leave him in a area with no carpet and teach him to use a potty pad.
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He won't be in the crate when he is really young for any length of period as someone will always be here for about the first 4 weeks. Thanks
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One other thing I want to ask, we have made a designated small area in the garden and out some little chips down. Our command we will use before taking him out is stones, and take him out. Should I use another cue when he is actually doing his business?
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For potty training purposes make sure the crate is only big enough for him to stand up, turn around, and lay down in. Any bigger and he's likely to pee on one side of the crate and stay in the other side.


For the potty command you should bring him to his potty area, tell him his command and wait until he goes or until 10 minutes have passed. If he potties as soon as his butt is coming up tell him good stones, pop a treat in his mouth and throw a potty party. What you're doing is getting him to associate stones with pottying and pottying in his potty area with getting a treat.
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Thank you, so I would say stones before I take him out and when he Has done it say good stones?
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Thank you, so I would say stones before I take him out and when he Has done it say good stones?

That I'm not positive about. What I do is bring the pup out then say stones, wait for them to go then right as their butt is lifting say good stones and give a tasty treat.

Ideally what you'd really want to do is first capture (clicker/marker word, treat, praise), her peeing in her potty spot. You'd do that by clicking, or using a marker word like good, and treating, as soon as her butt starts to lift and throw a potty party. Once she understands that pottying in her area gets her a treat you add your potty command to it. So you'd take her to her spot, say stones, wait for her to potty and then click/marker word as soon as her butt lifts, treat, and good stones, yay, your the best puppy ever! She should quickly learn that you're saying stones and her pottying are connected to the word stones. Once she makes that connection you can start asking her stones inside and see if she'll run to the door.
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