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Old 03-10-2010, 03:50 PM
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Advice and Info, please!

Hey everyone, new poster here!

I've been thinking for a while now about gettin myself a puppy during the summer! I'm 20, and have grown up with dogs my whole life (border collies) so i'm not a total noob.

I think i've got my heart set on a Beagle puppy, but i've never had one before so i'm just looking for some advice and info on them. Are they friendly enough with kids? Can they be trained to do a few wee things such as fetch etc? (nothing strenuous lol). I'm looking for a pup to grow up to be my pal Are beagles suitable for this sort of thing? Also, how much would i expect to spend on a beagle puppy? Are they easy enough to get? I'm in Ireland by the way.

All help appreciated, cheers!
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Hi Dusty,

I have only known one beagle in my life, but have met many.
The beagle I know of is very high energy. She doesn't listen to any obedience commands and is constantly moving. She howls (bays) at almost everything(people, cats, dogs, livestock). The dog has a horrible recall and will only come back to the house if she gets scared. She's an escape artist and when she gets loose, she follows her nose for hours on end. Apparently she's very sweet with her owners 12 year old son, but I have never seen them together. A while ago she got loose and killed 15 of my FIL's chickens.

Now what I haven't told you is that this dog was bought out of the newspaper for $400, bred by a back yard breeder. The owners didn't know what they were getting into. They bought the dog because of a Disney movie and figured the beagle would be exactly the same as the one on film. They live in a small apartment in a large city where the dog gets walked twice a week(it's trained to "go" on pee pads). When she is walked, it's for no longer then 10 minutes at a time. As I'm sure you've guessed, the dog has also never received formal obedience training.

I believe this breed in particular requires a dedicated home who will provide mental and physical stimulation. They are great little dogs, athletic, intelligent and good natured. In the right environment this breed (from what I've heard) makes a fantastic companion. In the wrong environment, they can be quite the handful.

As for price of the dog? I can't say what the average price is for a beagle, but I can tell you that the initial purchase price of the dog is nothing compared to the amount of money your new pup will incur in vet bills for the next 15 years of his/her life....healthy or not! Have you thought about rescuing a beagle?

Good luck and hopefully you find the right dog your home.

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Hi Dusty,

I have only known one beagle in my life, but have met many.
The beagle I know of is very high energy. She doesn't listen to any obedience commands and is constantly moving. She howls (bays) at almost everything(people, cats, dogs, livestock). The dog has a horrible recall and will only come back to the house if she gets scared. She's an escape artist and when she gets loose, she follows her nose for hours on end. Apparently she's very sweet with her owners 12 year old son, but I have never seen them together. A while ago she got loose and killed 15 of my FIL's chickens.

Now what I haven't told you is that this dog was bought out of the newspaper for $400, bred by a back yard breeder. The owners didn't know what they were getting into. They bought the dog because of a Disney movie and figured the beagle would be exactly the same as the one on film. They live in a small apartment in a large city where the dog gets walked twice a week(it's trained to "go" on pee pads). When she is walked, it's for no longer then 10 minutes at a time. As I'm sure you've guessed, the dog has also never received formal obedience training.

I believe this breed in particular requires a dedicated home who will provide mental and physical stimulation. They are great little dogs, athletic, intelligent and good natured. In the right environment this breed (from what I've heard) makes a fantastic companion. In the wrong environment, they can be quite the handful.

As for price of the dog? I can't say what the average price is for a beagle, but I can tell you that the initial purchase price of the dog is nothing compared to the amount of money your new pup will incur in vet bills for the next 15 years of his/her life....healthy or not! Have you thought about rescuing a beagle?

Good luck and hopefully you find the right dog your home.
Hi Wicked, thanks for that!

The beagle you know sounds like a bit of a hellraiser! However, as you say i think a lot of that can be put down to lack of discipline and unsuitable environment for an energetic dog. Although, beagles to seem to have a reputation for being easily distracted and rather difficult to train.

I'm graduating from university in the summer and will be living at home for the forseeable future. There will be plenty of space (big garden in the country side) and i should have plenty of free time to spend with and train the new doggy for the summer months and beyond.

I'm still open to ideas so maybe rescuing is something i could look in to more! Although the idea of growing up with the puppy is appealing. Price could be a stumbling block though, as being a student i don't have too much money lying a round. I know my parents could help out with vet bills etc though. Also, i've got a good feeling that the dog cold come under the farm insurance for that sort of thing.

Thanks for the info, i've got months to mull things over so i won't be rushing into any decision i might later regret.

Anything else you guys can tell me is much appreciated, cheers!
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First of all I would like to mention I have no idea what the availability of beagles is in Ireland and cost varies on location and breeder. In the states most any pure bred from a reputable breeder costs anywhere from $800-$1800. Sometimes less than that and possibly sometimes more for a show dog.

When I was 18 and still living at home with my parents they got a beagle puppy. Watching her grow up I can tell you they are great family dogs! They are goofy and playful and just total love bugs. I now take my dogs over to play with her sometimes and they have so much fun. She just loves everyone. She doesn't bark or bay much at all. (although I have heard that is a common train) A few things you should know about hounds is they love food, and if you have food they will find a way to get to it. If you are hiding a snack in your pocket they know! There is no hiding food items from them. haha. Since they are very food driven you want to make sure they get set meals a day. For example I leave my papillons food out all day for him to snack on... not a good idea with a beagle. Also Evey has ran out the front door of the house a few times. She is very hard to catch... once a beagle smells something they are gone and can run off so far that they may not be able to find their way back home. Hounds should always be leashed IMO unless in a gated area where they can't escape. It's not easy catching them. A few bad habits I have found about Evey is if you aren't paying attention she will try and sneak in the trash and make a mess. Also when she is sleeping if you try and move her it startles her and she will growl and one time even snapped at me. I doubt this is a trait of all beagles but just a pet peeve of my moms beagle. She is a extremely friendly dog I think she just gets nervous being woken unexpectedly. Anyways, for the most part what I know of beagles is mostly positive. They are great dogs. To answer your question about fetch... I think pretty much any dog breed loves to play fetch.

Anyways, welcome to the forum and good luck on finding a puppy
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I didn't realize you live on a farm. Beagles aren't your typical farm dog, not to say that you couldn't still get one. If you have chickens and such around I would be very cautious though as beagles are in the hunting breed category. Even with a lot of training and growing up around chickens and/or other small animals I wouldn't ever fully trust a beagle alone with them. It could start out as play, but a beagle may end up killing a small animal. I'm not sure what kind of farm you live on, I just thought I should point that out though.
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to be honest I think a beagle will be great for you in what you describe your needs and lifestyle are.

I mean, border collies are seriously wayy harder to handle than a beagle, IMO, for a newbie and you don't sound like a newbie to dogs at all anyways. They are such sweet dogs, and yes they can be noisy and way too energetic and will probably have a tremendous amount of energy till they are older (which I love in a dog) but they are great with kids overall and though stubborn, are sooo smart and just need the right environment as mentioned to flourish and from what it sounds like, you def. can provide that

I am not sure about prices in Ireland but I can't wait to see your new future dog you choose

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First of all I would like to mention I have no idea what the availability of beagles is in Ireland and cost varies on location and breeder. In the states most any pure bred from a reputable breeder costs anywhere from $800-$1800. Sometimes less than that and possibly sometimes more for a show dog.

When I was 18 and still living at home with my parents they got a beagle puppy. Watching her grow up I can tell you they are great family dogs! They are goofy and playful and just total love bugs. I now take my dogs over to play with her sometimes and they have so much fun. She just loves everyone. She doesn't bark or bay much at all. (although I have heard that is a common train) A few things you should know about hounds is they love food, and if you have food they will find a way to get to it. If you are hiding a snack in your pocket they know! There is no hiding food items from them. haha. Since they are very food driven you want to make sure they get set meals a day. For example I leave my papillons food out all day for him to snack on... not a good idea with a beagle. Also Evey has ran out the front door of the house a few times. She is very hard to catch... once a beagle smells something they are gone and can run off so far that they may not be able to find their way back home. Hounds should always be leashed IMO unless in a gated area where they can't escape. It's not easy catching them. A few bad habits I have found about Evey is if you aren't paying attention she will try and sneak in the trash and make a mess. Also when she is sleeping if you try and move her it startles her and she will growl and one time even snapped at me. I doubt this is a trait of all beagles but just a pet peeve of my moms beagle. She is a extremely friendly dog I think she just gets nervous being woken unexpectedly. Anyways, for the most part what I know of beagles is mostly positive. They are great dogs. To answer your question about fetch... I think pretty much any dog breed loves to play fetch.

Anyways, welcome to the forum and good luck on finding a puppy
Thanks for that, very informative! I'll remember that about the leash, as i have heard elsewhere that whenever a beagle picks up a scent they can be off just like that lol! However, we have a pretty big garden, well fenced and gated, so she should have plenty of room to burn energy while still being adequately confined.

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I didn't realize you live on a farm. Beagles aren't your typical farm dog, not to say that you couldn't still get one. If you have chickens and such around I would be very cautious though as beagles are in the hunting breed category. Even with a lot of training and growing up around chickens and/or other small animals I wouldn't ever fully trust a beagle alone with them. It could start out as play, but a beagle may end up killing a small animal. I'm not sure what kind of farm you live on, I just thought I should point that out though.
We have a big farm but my dad is winding down on the farming now in semi-retirement. The only livestock we keep now are cattle, so a beagle shouldnt really bother them too much compared to chickens or even sheep.

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to be honest I think a beagle will be great for you in what you describe your needs and lifestyle are.

I mean, border collies are seriously wayy harder to handle than a beagle, IMO, for a newbie and you don't sound like a newbie to dogs at all anyways. They are such sweet dogs, and yes they can be noisy and way too energetic and will probably have a tremendous amount of energy till they are older (which I love in a dog) but they are great with kids overall and though stubborn, are sooo smart and just need the right environment as mentioned to flourish and from what it sounds like, you def. can provide that

I am not sure about prices in Ireland but I can't wait to see your new future dog you choose

~MSE
I helped my dad train our sheep dogs for herding etc so i know a little about dog discipline, just not familiar with the breed mainly! But yeah, i loved growing up with collies, lovely dogs and they all had meek yet assertive temperments.


Thanks for the advice and wishes guys, much welcome!
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We have a big farm but my dad is winding down on the farming now in semi-retirement. The only livestock we keep now are cattle, so a beagle shouldnt really bother them too much compared to chickens or even sheep.
Well in that case you're right it should be fine I was just worried about livestock.

Around where I live I see beagles in shelters quite often, although they are normally not young babies. I would definitely check out your shelters and see what they have though.
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