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Old 12-20-2011, 02:37 PM
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Adopting Littermates. How bad of an idea is it?

So, were fostering a litter of puppies for a rescue. They are going to be semi large breed dogs. We are keeping one, for sure. Im very, very, very tempted to keep two. Of course, they are two males.

Per Google, this is a horrible idea. Say then they will never bond appropriatly with people since they have eachother, the time to crate, train, spend time with two dogs apart is too much, they can get overly dependant on eachother and then alot of times will end up with a bizarre case of sibling aggression which can result in a ton of fighting and stress.

Anyone do it with success? Any experiences both positive or negative? How bad of an idea is it? Do I trust in google at this point and just try to let the idea go?

Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks so much.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:43 PM
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The issues you discovered as you researched are pretty common problems with littermates. There are ways to make it work, but it takes a very dedicated person who is willing to put in the time and effort.

Personally I really like this article. It goes though reasons not to raise 2 puppies together, and also covers what to do if you do decide to go this route!
Problems Associated With Adopting Two Puppies at the Same Time - Whole Dog Journal Article
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That was an excellent article. Summarized everything I had read, just the condensed version. I think I know its not the right decision intellectually. I want to be successful, especially with a large breed and small children (2 and 3) and this would probably at some point, become a huge issue. Its hard not to make emotional decisions and realize they are better off in their own homes. I am hoping to hear "Its a great idea, go for it" but deep down inside, I dont think that will ever be the answer.
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I suggest don't do it, since it takes a lot of effort to be able to train them properly - and since you have two younger children in the house makes this even more difficult.
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I used to think it was not too terrible and idea, because I know a couple people who have done it and it seemed to be working OK. However, now that the dogs are 4 and 5 years old, the problems are getting quite pronounced, so now I believe the articles I've read that say its not a good plan.
I'd go for one puppy from this litter. If you want to make things up to the "karma" of the universe, find another puppy to adopt in about a year, after the first is well settled and somewhat grown up.
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I can understand that urge. It must be hard to prepare to part from them.

You sound like you know it's not the right decision, even though you'd like it to be. I'd put every ounce of that emotional energy into helping find the perfect homes for the ones you're not keeping and then you can - well, I was going to say relax and enjoy the one you keep, but with a pup and two toddlers in the house I'm guessing relaxing is a way off!

It's a great thing you're doing!
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Oh my! You're the same person who posted those adorable puppies. No wonder you're having a hard time just saying one pup!

Not a good idea - but oh my! WHAT a temptation!
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Thanks Tess, for the semi first hand advice. Sigh, I know what the right thing to do.

Yup, thats me!

Fostering is hard. Its hard to give them up, but I knew that going in. In the end they are better off in different homes, so I just have to remember that. I figured weve done our research, waited three years, have the time energy finances to do extensive obedience, etc, starting fostering to make sure we were ready. And survived 5 weeks of 5 puppies and 4 boys! What could go wrong?
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I've spoken to a few breeders recently about this as one of my puppy homes has become unsuitable; they all told me that though it CAN be done, the dogs were never the same as the ones raised alone, or even with other puppies that were unrelated. Basically, it can be done, it's very difficult, but it's very very likely that even with the best training, they'll always be closer and more interested in each other than you.

For that reason, I've decided not to run on this pup and instead just wait for the right home, even though he's as good a show prospect as his sister; he needs someone to love him all to himself.
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Anyone do it with success? Any experiences both positive or negative? How bad of an idea is it? Do I trust in google at this point and just try to let the idea go?

Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks so much.
My littermates are like big black remote controls...

They know 'community' commands as well as respond to individual commands (using their names or hand signal to specify WHICH dog). They eat at the same time, potty at the same time, sleep at the same time, work at the same time... For some things, training is more easy when they are together - For other things it can be harder. Depends on how complicated the task is and if one dog is a faster learner here. Dogs CAN learn from each other...

Frisbee at the same time is hard. The one girl likes to steal the frisbee and play 'keep away'. This drives me nuts. LOL!

Without knowing what sort of training experience you have I can't say if this would be right for you or not. Suffice to say that IF you have troubles training a single dog then you DO NOT want to try training two at the same time...

I have NO problems when I occasionally separate my girls and work with them independently.
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