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Old 02-01-2015, 03:24 PM
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Unhappy 11 month old puppy starting to show aggression?

Hi everyone, my german shepherd pup has just reached 11 months and is displaying some really odd behaviours.

Most strange are the moments in which he seems to lose control, running around crazily. I know in puppies this happens as they are burning away excess energy. However, my pup also bites while doing this, hard enough to leave bruises and marks all over you. He not only bites, but he lunges and leaps at you, barking all the while. The more I tell him off for this behaviour, the crazier he gets. There is literally nothing that will get him to stop doing this, except putting him in another room but I feel like this doesn't really teach him to stop.

I don't think he's being aggressive, but I'm not 100% certain. His tail wags while this is happening, and he is doing the usual puppy play stance, but he bites unusually hard and growls and when that's coming from a GSD, it makes people uncomfortable. It's come to the point where I simply don't know what to do about this. If I try and correct this behaviour, he bites me. If I ignore it, he bites me.

If anyone has any idea on this kind of behaviour and how I should deal with it, I would be incredibly grateful! I love my dog, but it's come to the point where I genuinely get a little scared (lame I know). No one likes putting their hands anywhere near a snapping jaw.
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11 month old German Shepard Puppy?...answer is exercise, exercise and more exercise!

Sounds like a typical puppy with too much pent up energy.
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Hi everyone, my german shepherd pup has just reached 11 months and is displaying some really odd behaviours.

Most strange are the moments in which he seems to lose control, running around crazily. I know in puppies this happens as they are burning away excess energy. However, my pup also bites while doing this, hard enough to leave bruises and marks all over you. He not only bites, but he lunges and leaps at you, barking all the while. The more I tell him off for this behaviour, the crazier he gets. There is literally nothing that will get him to stop doing this, except putting him in another room but I feel like this doesn't really teach him to stop.

I don't think he's being aggressive, but I'm not 100% certain. His tail wags while this is happening, and he is doing the usual puppy play stance, but he bites unusually hard and growls and when that's coming from a GSD, it makes people uncomfortable. It's come to the point where I simply don't know what to do about this. If I try and correct this behaviour, he bites me. If I ignore it, he bites me.

If anyone has any idea on this kind of behaviour and how I should deal with it, I would be incredibly grateful! I love my dog, but it's come to the point where I genuinely get a little scared (lame I know). No one likes putting their hands anywhere near a snapping jaw.
Sounds like a case of the zoomies, yes telling him off will make it worse, he'll think your joining in.

My boy does drive by bitings when he gets like that, and if he does get my hand he bites a lot harder then usual, it's because he's really excited and not paying attention to how hard he's biting. He'll also play growl, and sound like a demon possessed dog, people who don't know dogs would probably think he was attacking me.

If your boy were being aggressive he may wag his tail,, but it wouldn't be a happy loose, fast, wag. He'd not be play bowing, or have a loose, wiggly, body. He'd have a hard stare, lips lifted, stiff body, likely be stalking towards you, or charging you, with head low, fur along back raised, and yep a stiff wagging tail.

What training or you doing with him? What exercise is he getting? Draining some of his energy will keep the zoomies from being so bad, training him will help you keep in control of games. When I play with my boy I randomly ask for different cues (commands) it helps to work his mind as well as his body.

For his zoomies start redirecting his play to his toys while he's not so out of control, then when he gets the zoomies try redirecting his biting to a toy or get out a flirt pole redirect him to that. A flirt pole is a dog toy attached to a string attached to a rope, some people make them out of lunge whips. If he continues to bite after you redirect him then putting him in another room is the way to go. Doing that teaches him two things, one that it's alright to have the zoomies and bite on his toys, when he does that the fun continues. Two that if he has the zoomies and bites the human the fun time ends.
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Everything @Rain just said!

I have 2 Rottweilers and I can honestly say that to me, their growl is just funny and playful but to a outsider - it sounds horrific!

Saying that - I have only a handful of times, between the two of them, seen them in a mood where they mean business and let me tell you - YOU will know when that happens! The very first time I heard mine growl and bark for real, I got cold shivers down my back and they didn't even show teeth!

This sounds like hyper zoomies to me! One of my boys would nip and "bite" when he was frustrated, even after he turned one years old (other one would try to run with his hind legs in front of his front legs)!

Redirect to a toy, do a bit of training, take him for a power walk, teach him new tricks and games!

Personally, I love "Find it" and the three cup game because it drains them mentally, a lot quicker than anything else! Because although they know the rules, the treats are never in the same spot so they always have to think.

You can buy a cheap hula hoop and teach him to walk through, then jump through it. You can put a wide plank on the ground and once he is comfortable, you can raise it a bit, etc.

Do you do clicker training?

Last but certainly not least - go on Youtube and look up these two!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRy...0SZNRyq1iVda5g (Training positive)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-q...k6bfs3UZuue6IQ - Kikopup
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I agree that it sounds like zoomies.
Happens not only when a dog is under stimulated as well as over stimulated.

You'll want to take a good look at your dog's schedule. If lacking in exercise and/or mental stimulation then you'll want to add more to your dog's day. If already providing an adequate amount, then you would want to likely add more relaxation and calmer activities to your dog's day. It's a balance and it can be tricky to find it!

In general though, actively training impulse control and a default settle can really help. There should be videos on this and more in the different threads in our ''Dog training and behavior stickies'' sub forum. Let us know if you need help finding them.

There are still likely to be times the zoomies happen even well into adulthood so come up with a way to manage them when they do happen. There are already a ton of good ideas above on posts from others. Personally, since I have a secure fenced in yard, I just usher my dogs outside and they can zoom as much as they want while I watch and enjoy.
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Hi everybody, thank you so much for the replies it's a relief to know that this is normal behaviour!

I will seriously look into how much exercises and mental stimulation he gets. An average day I will take him around lunch time for a 40 mins walk in which I divide the time between play and training. He's always been incredibly smart and easy to train, however as he's getting older his attention lapses when there are other dogs around, which is understandable. To counteract this I've just been taking him to parks and doing simple training within a busy space so he gets used to obeying commands even with lots of distractions. The rest of the walk just involved lots and lots of play and ball throwing!

And then in the evening I will take him for another 40 minute walk to the beach where he has a good run. Maybe I should try more mental stimulation throughout the day to keep him more occupied. @myrottenones I love the idea of the 'find it' game and hula hoops so I may try that.
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I can sympathize with those painful GSD bites - when we adopted our dog she was 6 months old and hadn't had any bite inhibition training. My arms and legs looked horrible for weeks.

It does sound like the zoomies I'm just not sure why your dog is also biting at the same time. Does he have good bite inhibition?

My dog would get more riled up when I would try and stop certain behaviors - such as biting and lunging. Eventually through enough redirection and staying still and completely ignoring her we got it under control. Unfortunately the suggestion of yelping when she bit riled her up even more. Looking back I think some more socialization with some other dogs would have been extremely beneficial - they're the best at teaching some good manners to unruly pups.
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When he does this, try getting a squeaky toy (the kong air dog squeaker tennis balls are perfectly pocket-sized) and throwing it. That way he has something entertaining in his mouth that isn't human flesh. The dogs I walk sometimes like to zoom in endless circles, making 'music' with their toys
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