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Old 03-28-2014, 07:25 PM
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Hello,

I have a 8.5 YO female mixed breed that I've had since she was 4 MO. She's pretty well trained, but has a few aggressive issues with some dogs.

Just got a 9 week male collie.

She seems to be accepting him fairly well. She mostly just growls when he nips at her or gets in her face. Other than that, they walk well together, train together as well as individually and just generally coexist. No playing on her part, but she does allow him to chase her around the yard when she is playing frisbee. She does not attack him.

Here's my question. Evenings are tricky. She's tired, we're all in the living room together and if he gets too close, she snarls. I got him an exercise pen, but he cries and whines and then she really tries to correct him. We think she just doesn't want to hear him and is telling him this is unacceptable.

Tonight I'm just freaked out that maybe they'll never be ok together. It's only been 6 days. I guess I just need some encouragement.
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My older dog was 9ish when I brought the younger ones home. He didn't have any interest in playing with them until they got older and they annoyed him. We just gave Mac an escape (let him go into another room to sleep)
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You have to be willing to accept that your older dog may never be okay with the new pup. If she doesn't like other dogs, she doesn't like other dogs, and there's nothing you can do to change that. It may be that you have to keep the dogs totally separated 24/7 if she never accepts him, or at least that you must always heavily supervise them. Do not ever leave them alone unattended together.

She may come to accept him in time, but she may not. I would definitely not allow him to pester her at ALL in the evenings when she's cranky. She's older, she's tired, and she doesn't deserve to have a puppy in her face stressing her out. You may have to keep him confined to another room until she's more accepting of him in the evenings.
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I think that age plays a part. She is an older dog who is obviously not in the mood for puppy behavior. Keep a close eye on them and hopefully as the puppy matures the will get along better. Until then don't let puppy annoy her and make sure that puppy isn't getting ALL of your attention. Some dogs can become jealous.
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Thank you all for your replies. They pretty much confirm what I think I'm seeing with the two dogs. Hopefully in time, they will be friends. I watch her sniff him, even greet in the mornings. Today she laid down just a few inches beside him, but when he rolled on his side and was actually touching her, she gave a slight growl and got up and moved away.

Reminds me of my kids when they were little, "DON'T TOUCH ME! MOM, HE TOUCHED ME."
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This is pretty normal old dog / puppy behavior.

I'd make sure the new pup cannot bother her in the evenings. Its just not going to go well to have the young boy bothering Grandma when she's tired. Keep them physically separated, but make sure that does not mean grandma is in the back room. Put the pup on a leash or on the other side of a gate, or in a large crate in the living room with you. Puppy is probably tired by then too, and won't have any self control, so its a good time to contain him anyway.

Things will probably get a bit tougher before they get easier. The teenage months are even harder for old dogs to take, but just keep working with the pup to teach him other things to do when he want so play with the old lady. We've often taught the young puppy to pick up a stick to play with when he gets rambunctious outside with the older dog. Enough repetition and its pretty easy to re-direct the puppy to another activity that you will engage with him.

Management, management, management. No one needs a scolding. Just stay calm yourself, and be empathetic with the old girl, and patient with the new pup. It will all be OK in the long run. By the time he is an adult they will be on more even ground and are likely to just be good friends.
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My older girl started to initiate some play moves today, but she is rough. She's always had a rough style of playing and is till rather energetic. She runs full tilt right over him. He doesn't seem to like it but then comes at her, dancing around her cautiously.

What she doesn't like is frantic play in our living room, especially in the evening. So many things are going well. I have read that those teenage months are tough. I'm hoping it won't be too bad as he is a fairly calm collie.
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