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Old 07-29-2014, 07:28 PM
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Jealousy or Coincidence??? YOU be the judge!

Greetings from North Carolina. We live in the country on quite a bit of land (or so it seems when chasing a puppy), and we have had two Shelties from the time they were puppies. Both males. One is ten and the other is about nine years old. They pretty much think they're the same dog and have always gotten along beautifully. The younger one is, to my mind, more "collie like." He is more standoffish and he is loving, but doesn't much like other people or other dogs. The other one is a sweetheart with the family, but doesn't much like anyone else, although he will give in if he has no choice. We decided to get a Westie puppy because we've always wanted one, and also because "the boys" are getting older. I guess he's our "gap dog." He gave the older dogs no choice from Day One as to whether they were going to relate to him: he is a typical Westie, fearless and plucky. The older Sheltie saw which side his bread was buttered on and made friends quickly, and the two play together all the time. He puts the little guy in his place as necessary, and we don't interfere. None of them has ever been mean or violent with each other. Now, the other Sheltie is kind of....annoyed with us for bringing this little guy into his settled world. He has pretty bad arthritis, and we don't ask much of him, and have let them alone to work it out. So far, things have been okay, but there is a definite feeling that he is jealous and not too happy. Plus, his "brother," who has always played with him, now likes to play with the puppy.

So this is where I'm going with all this: today, the jealous Sheltie has had several "accidents," two at the door where we take them out, and one among the Westie's puppy toys scattered all over the living room. Yuck. Now, he could have snuck off and eaten something weird, because he does manage to get away with that occasionally. But maybe--could this be a jealousy thing? We've had the pup for over a month now, with no real incidents, but we went away for the weekend and took the puppy with us. My daughter, who dogsat, said that this Sheltie seemed relieved that the puppy was gone...and now, of course, he's back, and this incident has happened. So that's my question: is he expressing his annoyance, or is this just an accident? He has had "accidents" like this several times over the years, but never on a regular basis. The Westie is doing great with his crate training, and this does NOT set a good example. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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The older one may have gotten ill with the stress of the new pup. I would take him and have him checked out by a vet to see off he is ill. Stress can cause illness in older cats and dogs. Dogs don't act out like that, that is a human thing.
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Jealousy can happen in dogs, but what you're describing is not a symptom of that. A lot of older dogs find puppies to be incredibly stressful, as changes to their long-set routine are not welcome. It is great that your eldest likes to play with the puppy, but you may want to separate the other and not let him be bothered by a pup that's not inclined to leave him alone. A lot of times I advocate letting the dogs work things out, but your dog is showing you that he's mentally and emotionally unable to handle this tactic, and so you've got to do what you can to help him along.

Here's a good link on the forum for managing multi-dog households. It's a good place to start:

One is the loneliest number: Multi-Dog Households
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Barky, thanks. We've really been trying not to make any demands on the one who isn't handling it well, and have been trying to give him extra loving attention...but it's good to have it pointed out that the stress on him may be worse than it seems.

Dawnben, all our dogs got checkups recently, and we had blood tests for this guy because he's having such a rough time getting around. Nothing seems to be wrong with him. We're giving him vet-prescribed Tramadol for pain, and it does seem to help.
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Oh, and will certainly read through the thread suggested....
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