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Old 07-22-2014, 12:42 AM
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Hi, We are Betty and Charles. We live in the Smoky Mountains in NC. We are both nurses, have four grown children, 14 grandchildren, and two great-grand-daughters. We own three dogs and five cats. Two of our dogs are Golden Retrievers. One is my medical assistance dog, Yohnah. (It means Bear in Cherokee). He is a seven year-old male, and is certified to provide hearing assistance for me. I have a severe hearing impairment from a brain tumor many years ago. Mostly he is my hiking buddy in the national park. He keeps me informed of any wild animals or danger in the area. We spot black bear in the park about once a week. I would not be comfortable hiking without the dog. Yohnah is a neutered male.We have Yohnah's full sister from a later litter. Her name is Saloni. Saloni translates to Beautiful in several Native American languages. Saloni is a big pet. Both Yohnah and Saloni do some pet therapy in local health care facilities. Saloni is also altered. The third dog is RJ. RJ is a minature male dachshound. He is nine years old. I bought RJ for Betty when her ****zu passed away from old age. RJ was seven weeks old when we bought him. He was neutered by three months. We were never able to housebreak RJ. RJ will just go anywhere without any warning. We have tried everything. The vet says that dachshounds are sometimes difficult, if not impossible to train. Other dachshound owners echo the same thoughts. Betty started putting RJ in the kennel with the big dogs when he was young, and he really likes it out there. If we try to bring him back inside of the house, he whines to go back to the kennel. The kennel is 20 feet x 60 feet and is all concrete. The fence is a six foot chain link type fence. The dog house is an 8' x 12' room on the back of our garage. The dogs have a section and the cats have a section. The cats also have an outdoor run that is between the dog run and the back wall of the garage. The dog/cat house has a dog door on the dog side, and a cat door on the cat side. The room is insulated, has a large sliding glass door on one side, and a window on the front. The house has A/C and heat. I finished the inside with oak paneling, except for the area which is finshed in pebble grain fiberglass sheeting. the floor is fiberglass sheeting also. RJ has always done his business inside of the dog house. The floor of the old house rotted out because of him peeing on it. he started peeing in the new kennel room as soon as I completed it and opened it up to use. The floor is sealed, so he cannot damage it, but it sure does stink. I have a rubber mat inside, and have to haul it out on my days off, scrub it and let it dry. The urine runs under the mat, so the floor has to be scrubbed also. RJ has always tended to pee on the side of the food bowl, which I kept inside of the kennel to keep the rain out of it. We thought that maybe he felt the need to mark the food bowl, so I purchased an outdoor weather proof feeder, and moved everything outside. That seemed to help somewhat. After a few days, RJ started peeing inside of the kennel again. RJ is a freindly sweet little dog. He loves his two big fuzzy buddies. The large dogs let RJ assume Alpha position in most situations. The golden's do not soil the inside of the kennel. Golden's housebreak so easy, that we are perplexed by the behavior of this dachshound. The big dogs inadvertantly end up with urine on their coats which makes the odor problem even worse. Since Yohnah is an assistance dog, I find myself having to bath the dog more often then would be necessary if the dog was not laying in pee inside of the kennel. Any thoughts about this problem, or are we stuck with this bad behavior until this little guy passes away. Betty wants to try and find him another home, however I don't think that anyone will want a nine year-old small dog who can't be housebroke. I hate to be waiting for this dog to die, but at this point, we don't seem to have any other choices. I thought about crating him, but I work long hours and he would not have much of a life crated most of the time. Thanks for any insights. The cats are all fine. They have a separate room connected to the kennel with their litter boxes inside. They access the litter box area through a cat door. The litter box room is vented outside, and has a cat door that leads to the outdoor run. The cats get to take turns visiting inside of the house during the daytime when Betty is there.
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Old 07-22-2014, 12:43 AM
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Sorry the computer combined all of the paragraphs together when the tread posted.
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Old 07-22-2014, 05:17 PM
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Placing him with a rescue is definitely an option. Yes, adult dogs who are not house trained are not what people usually go looking for when they go looking for a new dog, but I suspect that if he was in a different environment where there were not habits that he was falling back on, and someone started housetraining from scratch like he was a tiny puppy, that they would probably have success with him.

If he was meant to be a companion for your wife, and your wife no longer enjoys his company, and if he does not seem to prefer your family's company over time in the yard, then there is no shame in trying to find a better placement.
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Maybe in New Zealand placement might be an option, unfortunately here it is not likely. We have a severe pet overpopulation problem in this part of the US. We live an a very rural area in the NC mountains. 2/3 of the county is a national park. The other 1/3 of the county is the second poorest county in the state. The county has no humane society, no animal control, and no leash laws. There is one charity shelter that stays full to the max all of the time. I know, because I am a supporter of that shelter. There is a regional shelter 90 miles away, that will take strays, but will not take owner surrendered animals. I was told that the due to the dog's age he would be euthanized. I am not the sort of person who buys or adopts an animal then gives it up because of a problem. One of my Golden's tore her MCL tendon in her knee last year. I took her to a animal orthopedic surgeon and they fixed her up. The surgery was $3900.00. She is doing great now.

RJ does not like being indoors, but he does seem happy. I spend time with him and the other dogs daily, sometimes several times a day. He and the large dogs get along great, and all act like big buddies. He enjoys our mountain side hikes and is interested in everything. I walk him on a leash because he will run off and will not return for hours. Commands and compliance are not his thing... The Golden's are good on the trail, off leash and they obey commands very well. It all works out though.

I think that we will continue as is. When RJ pees in the kennel house, I will remove everything and clean it. Maybe after a time, he will catch on. I am a little overwhelmed right now due to my battle with cancer, trying to work and keep up with everything at home. In one week I will be driving 130 miles daily for radiation treatment after working all night. That will go on for eight weeks.

This week we have had one episode of him peeing inside of the dog kennel. Since the weather is getting hotter, the dogs are enjoying being able to go inside to get out of the heat. The kennel house is a climate controlled building. Maybe RJ is getting the idea that it is not the toilet. The dogs are not allowed to run loose. They do have a 20' x 60' kennel area that is concrete floored with 6' chain link surrounding the parameter.

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I am actually an American, and I've lived all over the United States. I've volunteered with rescues, shelters, and have fostered in six states and three countries for almost 20 years. Some areas of the country do indeed have more difficult prospects for re-homing dogs, but unless there are issues that render a dog dangerous, there is usually a good chance that with time, patience, and effort, you can re-home just about any dog.

Here's a link to no-kill shelters and organisations in North Carolina. Some time on the phone and some time on the weekend for a drive would be all that would be needed, if you ever got to the point where you needed to find an alternate arrangement for him. www.nokillnetwork.org - North-Carolina

I recommended options for placement because you said your wife, whose companion animal he was supposed to be, wanted to re-home him. If you are morally against this, that's a discussion with your wife, and is no business of mine.

There are ways to enact behavioural modification for this dog which include keeping him from accessing the areas where he is habitually urinating, and completely crate training him as if he was a puppy, but I suspect it will take a lot more time and patience than simply cleaning up after him, and picking your battles is paramount when you are experiencing decreased time and energy due to stress or health concerns.

I wish you the best of luck.
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Thanks, My wife is always willing to take the quick fix. As long as she does not have to clean up the mess, it is a non issue for her.
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Hi, I live in Piedmont, NC. I'm kind of new here, but it sounds as if you had made your decision about this dog and this situation before you wrote. While I don't think I could do what you say you plan on doing, obviously you must do as you think best. It does sound as if you have an awful lot on your plate, as the saying goes, and I wonder if this dog feels the pressure of your stress... They are so psychic!

I'm fairly sure you could find a rescue for him if that is what you were to choose. I know there are at least two rescues right here in the Raleigh-Durham area. Perhaps, under the circumstances, you might ask yourself why it is so important to you to keep this dog, when a new situation might well be found, one that would give him a new chance. Good luck.

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