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Old 03-31-2016, 06:45 PM
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Impossible to potty train this puppy, breaking point.

I know exactly what you guys are thinking. ' Yet an other person who can't house train their puppy '. But trust me and take time to read this, it's a very particular case.

First off, I'd like to introduce myself regarding this situation and how it came to be. I own a dog center ( board and train, regular boarding and grooming ). Being a professional dog trainer I've seen my fair share of owner complaining about their ' impossible ' to potty train puppies. Of course, every time I had no problem showing them what they did wrong and giving them solution ( or training the dog myself in boarding for most cases ) to make the dog house trained. But this time is different.

I found an abandoned puppy, mixed breed ( husky/gshep/lab? ), 2 months old. First thing I noticed was that she was sick. Diarrhea, very smelly urine, poor coat condition. Brought her to a vet, got her de-wormed, vaccines and on a special diet + antibiotics. She pooped and peed on me, at the vet also, in the car also.. I bring her home, same thing. I put up a diaper on her since I just thought she was so sick she couldn't hold it in since she literally walked around, played, and it was just falling out/dripping out. She never squatted or held a pee/poo position. It justs falls as she does her normal stuff. Now for the night I put her in a crate.

Morning comes, cage is not soiled. No poo or pee. I open the door, bam she does all of that on the floor. I was actually happy, I was like ' Thank god she can actually hold it in ! '. Turns out it was the beginning of a nightmare.

I brought her outside in a kennel for over 10 hours ( literally. ). No poo. Or pee. As soon as I bring her in, all hell breaks loose she does all of it on the ground, walking around like nothing, poops falling out of her anus and pee dripping from her vulva. I go back outside with her, bring her for a walk, we walk around 1h20, no poo or pee. As soon as indoors.. bam again. At this point it's getting late and I'm exausted, back in the kennel.

The day after, still clean cage. I try to pick her up to bring her outside so she can't touch the floor, she poo/pee on me before I even can take her out. I feed her outside, leave her out in a kennel.. guess what? 5 hours later still nothing. It started to rain so I had no choice than to bring her in... which of course led to her peeing/pooping everywhere while walking around.

I've had her for 4 days. I tried everything.
I leashed her on me 24/7, brought her outside every 10 minute, staying outside for hours with her, bringing her for walk on and off leash, bringing her where other dogs have pooed, bringing HER poo and kleenex filled with HER pee outside, waiting at the same place, hiding, playing outside, strict water and food schedule, crate.. I'm out of idea and I'm near my breaking point.

I'm tired of washing her cause somehow the poo stucks under her tail, I'm tired of cleaning up pee and poo everywhere. I just want her to go outside ONCE.

Any idea?

Please no negative comments, I'm exausted I don't mean for any of this to sound rude
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:53 PM
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Is there any way for you to simulate being inside while she is outside? Like maybe going through a door to a different part of outside? I'll think about it some more tonight and see if anything comes to mind. Very strange indeed though.
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Is there any way for you to simulate being inside while she is outside? Like maybe going through a door to a different part of outside? I'll think about it some more tonight and see if anything comes to mind. Very strange indeed though.
Except the outside kennel doors, no, and she refuses to poop there too :/ If you come up with something do let me know!

She even poo and pee while laying down if she's indoor.
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Have you tried walking her back and forth through the door? I would think if you can catch her going and be close enough to outside to get her there before all hell breaks loose than you can begin to show her what she needs to do that way.
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Have you tried walking her back and forth through the door? I would think if you can catch her going and be close enough to outside to get her there before all hell breaks loose than you can begin to show her what she needs to do that way.
Wow that's actually a good idea! Didn't think of that. I'll try that tomorrow for sure !
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Have you worked with her and treats in the kennel? I'm wondering if she's scared of outside? Defecating is a pretty vulnerable act for any animal is there any way of putting a solid tarp or barrier around part of the area you want her to go so she can't see anything scary? (This is from working with cattle, they're much easier to work through a run if they can't get spooked by shadows)
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Have you worked with her and treats in the kennel? I'm wondering if she's scared of outside? Defecating is a pretty vulnerable act for any animal is there any way of putting a solid tarp or barrier around part of the area you want her to go so she can't see anything scary? (This is from working with cattle, they're much easier to work through a run if they can't get spooked by shadows)
Yeah I did treats. She isn't scared of the outside, she loves it ( she's been living outside since her first day of life so she MUST'VE peed/pooed outside for sure. But yeah I've put her in a kennel that the outside world was hidden by snow up to 5 ft, still no poop or pee.

This morning she did again in her crate, I fed her, brought her for a walk in the woods with 2 of my dogs hoping she would do the same as them. 2 hours of walking later she hasn't pooed, I bring them in.. you guessed it.

I really don't know what to think anymore except that her reverse potty training is excellent
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There is a pretty big difference between having to go outside and choosing it. Echo also loves being outside, but she is poop shy. There is just so much going on around even a leaf blowing or bird overhead will interrupt her. We don't have the ability to put up a barrier and make a safe spot so I'm working on desensitization and it is slowly getting better, I suspect it's going to be a long road.
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What about trying to train her to use pee pads in the house, then slowly moving them towards the door then outside? Maybe start by setting up the pee pad right outside her crate so it's the first chance she gets to go?
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