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Old 11-20-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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My thread about designer dogs

Thank you all for feeling the way I do about this problem, but still, I am on a crusade to stop this indiscrimate breeding. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Maybe if we all banned together we could make a difference.
I myself would like to take some to the shelter, or to the vets, and let them feel what it is like to hold a dog, or a pup put to sleep, not a nice feeling,
had to do it when I worked for my Vet, and it still makes me feel sick.
This is my passion, and I had to post that thread.
They just don't realize that they are contributing to the over population of unwanted pups, and the useless euth of the most innocent. If I stepped on peoples toes, I am sorry, but for those that do this for $$, I hope you learn a lesson, or at least have second thought about what you are doing.
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Educating the public is the best way, like someone stated, if there is no market for those pups, if people would stop paying hundreds of dollars for cross bred dogs, then the breeders would quickly go out of business.

Call shelters and tell them to stop labeling pups with designer names and instead call the pups what they are mixed breeds. Call or write Animal Planet and the show Too Cute and tell them we will stop watching if they feature any more designer breed puppies.
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I am not sure of the exact contents of the original thread but thereis a huge problem with not just ‘designer’ dogs but badly bred dogs in general (Pedigre but without papers ) being bred for money with no care for the dogs health welfare or future.

My girl was given to me at 10 months – A Dobermann (Now believed to be a Rottie X Shar Pei). Never had a collar on – Never been on a walk – advertised free as a Dobermann and on her 4th home at 10 months old.

Where was her so called breeder? ? He didn’t give a dam – else she would of gone back to him after the first owner gave up on her.

My girl was the lucky one but what about her littermates? I dread to think and call me sad it has given me sleepless nights. But I have to realise you cant save them all.

I do not know what the answer is but a good place to begin with its education.

Educating people not to buy off a breeder who isn’t 100% right.

To not answer adverts of people who are selling multiple breeds of dog / multiple mixes with possibly the same stud.

People who cant even be bothered to put photos of the actual dogs for sale in an add.

To not buy a puppy with no health tests but boasting about vet checks L because they ‘only want a pet and don’t want to spend thousands of £’

All these little things which to the nowledgeable and caring (Some poepl know but just dont care ) scream 'Puppy Farm' or 'Back Yard Breeder' but Joe Bloggs might niavely fall for the stories and lies.

By taking the first step of making it harder for these unethical breeders to sell there pups then maybe just maybe they will think twice about the next litter they produce. In the long run it will healp break the vicious cycle.

Its about people knowing and caring about where there puppy has come from and not falling for the ‘oh its so cute’ and ‘its ok because im saving it’ situation.

As an owner im quite happy to have other peoples hand me down dogs for the rest of my life – They don’t know what they missed out on.
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I don't think there is any stopping it personally. At this point I see more mutts being sold than purebreds. Go to the pet store, you'll be shocked how many mutts are being sold to stupid people. "Tell a lie long enough and it becomes a truth" is such a true saying. People believe all the hype about these dogs without doing any research at all.

I've got a viszla/weimaraner mix. Total mutt. BUT if I called him a visaweimer I could sell his pups for tons of $$$. How does that make sense to anyone? Make the name cute and the brainless masses will buy.
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I agree that education is extremely important.
There don't seem to be any "rules" to how many litters of puppies a private person can sell.
We have rules where I live that state how many garage sales you can have, but not how many litters you can sell. Since this is a income, which technically should be reported for taxes, there should be some kind of rules. If these rules existed, then at least neighbors could report problem bybs and some of them would get caught out. (That's basically how the garage sale thing is reinforced)
I don't see a lot of solutions to the problem, except people like us could avoid buying from these unscrupulous "breeders".
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I agree that education is extremely important.
There don't seem to be any "rules" to how many litters of puppies a private person can sell.
We have rules where I live that state how many garage sales you can have, but not how many litters you can sell. Since this is a income, which technically should be reported for taxes, there should be some kind of rules. If these rules existed, then at least neighbors could report problem bybs and some of them would get caught out. (That's basically how the garage sale thing is reinforced)
I don't see a lot of solutions to the problem, except people like us could avoid buying from these unscrupulous "breeders".
It's time to call our states Congressmen, Senators and representatives and propose a tax on all unneutered dogs in this country, State and Federal.
When they go to license their dogs and just showing neutering papers, impose a larger fee to those that don't.
When time comes to breed, and application fee must be paid, this includes even the most reputable of breeders to be fair. Reputable breeders should not mind the extra $. THe designers would be turned down. DENIED!
Maybe this would help to keep breeds pure the way they are intended to be.
The Fed tax would go to the budget, the local fees will go to all shelters.
Any Lawyers out there that would be willing to draw up such a proposal?
Just some of my ideas.
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Our city charges $28.00 annually for a sterilized dog's license and $63.00 for an unsterilized dog's license.
BTW I stand corrected re: the number of litters you can have (where I live). I didn't know this before I last posted in this thread but I've done some more research and apparently you need "hobby breeder license" if you plan to have between two and five litters per year or a "commercial breeder license" if you have more than five litters per year. I am trying to find out what the cost of these are. I also wonder how many people actually get these licenses.
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We have to hit these people in the pocket where it counts most to them.
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It would probably be more effective to have a law that prevents the sale of mixed breed dogs/unregistered pure breeds from exceeding, I don't know, 50$ (acceptation would be shelters). Also to prevent people who then buy registered dogs to breed, a thing within the same law that still prevents them from selling dogs for a high price unless they have been screened for health problems.

This way it would be easier to keep track of (remember not everyone reg's theirs dogs with the county...ect..) because it would be the public that controls/reports it. Anyone who fails to follow will have their animal confiscated and fixed, and returned to them with a lovely bill for the procedure.
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Blue pup: A price cap might be a good idea. And that, for sure would be policed by the buying public! And the byb will not necessarily look at their dogs as cash registers.
I agree that shelters should be exempt from this because usually the fee for adopting from shelters includes spay/neuter fees.
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