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Old 10-17-2012, 05:41 PM
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Male Sexual Frustration

Hello,

I'm curious if anyone here might know about dog hormones, and how what we do with them can effect their behaviour.
In particular, with my latest foster, a 4 yr old male Bernese mix, not fixed, that he's humping everything in sight. Front, back, side, male, female, the air....
Would seem like sexual frustration right (not to anthropo too much)
Now, the usual answer is, get him fixed and be done with it.
Which is what my rescue wants.
Fine.
But what if he was allowed, without chance of imprego, to get his rocks off, just once (or maybe a even a few times)?
And then he was fixed as usual.
Would that have any effect on his behaviour?
Would it help get that frustration, that not knowing, out of his system?


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Old 10-17-2012, 05:57 PM
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Good question.
and the answer is: mating once to 'get it out of his system' would be a very reinforcing event for a dog. And so it would increase the likelihood of attempts, not decrease.

Humping is a behaviour that is not necessarily tied to sex however. It can be play, bullying, aggression, my bitch humps my GSD's face, go figure?
why, coz she knows it pees him off, and he'll chase her.
In this scenario, there is no sexual motivation for her humping.

My GSD will hump my daughter's b/f, why? Poor taste is shared by my dog and daughter. Its a greeting behaviour learnt over the past 7 months this dude has been hanging around for like a bad smell. Each time he humps, b/f laughs, and throws a ball to get him off.
My GSD has trained the b/f well here. Again, not a sexual behaviour, but a reinforced behaviour.
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Definitely the more it's done, the more it will be reinforced, like any behavior in dogs. I'm not sure I agree with rotten that some of it is not sexual (all of it is sexual, from my understanding), but I'm no animal behaviorist. Mounting is a life skill; it's a fixed action pattern - the reproduction one. Here's a good article on the topic: Oh behave: Love and mounting
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Nope. Actually I doubt its truely sexual. Usually a habitual humper is doing it out of habit, out of dominence, to claim something...neutering won't help, I've known ALOT of neutered dogs that hump everything.
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Is it black and white?
I know plenty of dogs that changed that behaviour after getting fixed.
Surely there is something to that?
And surely some dogs do it to play, to be dominant, to be sexual (or rather to actually attempt to procreate or mimic the act at least)?
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Again, I'm not an animal behaviorist, but from what I've read it's an instinctual behavior. So if by "play" you mean "sex play", then, yes, it can be play. Can it become habit? Sure. Does that mean it isn't sexual in origin in some cases? I have no idea. I don't want to derail your thread too much.

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I read the article. Well, I get now that it's really part of play for many dogs. But regardless, if I want him to get along at the dog run, and on walks, I can't have him humping every dog he sees. Not because he's aggressive. He's totally chill. But because other dogs will attack him. And because owners tend not to like it also. So I will be getting him fixed, of course, but I'd like to hopefully train him not to do it all the time. This will also up his chances of getting adopted, and staying adopted.
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At 4 months it is not sexual. It is play and somewhat exciting but in a different way then sexual. Males usually do not mature until they around 7 months old..when they start hiking. A male does not have to be bred..on the contrary it is best not to breed to prevent the hiking/marking everything urge. No ill effect will happen if a male is neutered.

He will probably out grow when he finds other things that are more fun.. Some continue though, however can be worked with not to do all the time to everything.
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Well, he's four yrs old, not 4 months. Since I don't know his history. Is it likely that he was used for breeding, or at least lacked proper training/correction from previous owner (s)? Given that he is obsessed with it? Or is it just how some males are, when they haven't been fixed by this age?
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Fixing may or may not help, considering his age, if it has become habit. Definitely still get him fixed. If it does help, it won't be instant. I can't remember how long it takes for the testosterone to work its way out of the system. I know other members have posted it before.
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