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Old 07-07-2009, 06:26 PM
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Hello all just joined and boy do I have some questions! My daughter who lives at home with us just adopted a pug/beagle mix so I suppose you can say we all adopted him. We got him at the shelter they say hes about 4 years old and very hyper and completely spoiled by someone. For the first 2 days he refused to eat but begged for every morsel of food he smelled and saw. Finally I had to grind down his dry food and add a small portion of meaty food to get him to eat and now he will eat the dry food whole but only with the taste of the meat in it. We have been working hard to get him potty trained and finally out of frustration I ended up tethering him and leaving him to do his business. In some wierd way it worked so now we can let him out of his crate and out the door to go in the mornings. He still if not watched like a hawk pee where ever he wants but particularly likes area rugs. A new problem has arisen where instead of going to the potty place he is going at the back door or on the pillars of the porch! This is our first dog so we are kinda stumbling and looking up advice and instruction on the net so I thought I would join a forum and get some advice from others who have been through this before. Can anyone suggest any way to get him not to go by the door or on the porch? Thanks!
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Hello all just joined and boy do I have some questions! My daughter who lives at home with us just adopted a pug/beagle mix so I suppose you can say we all adopted him. We got him at the shelter they say hes about 4 years old and very hyper and completely spoiled by someone. For the first 2 days he refused to eat but begged for every morsel of food he smelled and saw. Finally I had to grind down his dry food and add a small portion of meaty food to get him to eat and now he will eat the dry food whole but only with the taste of the meat in it. We have been working hard to get him potty trained and finally out of frustration I ended up tethering him and leaving him to do his business. In some wierd way it worked so now we can let him out of his crate and out the door to go in the mornings. He still if not watched like a hawk pee where ever he wants but particularly likes area rugs. A new problem has arisen where instead of going to the potty place he is going at the back door or on the pillars of the porch! This is our first dog so we are kinda stumbling and looking up advice and instruction on the net so I thought I would join a forum and get some advice from others who have been through this before. Can anyone suggest any way to get him not to go by the door or on the porch? Thanks!
I am not great with potty training difficulties lol but could it be he is not used to a yard so doesn't know where he should be going? Maybe when he does it just clean it up and spray some scent remover on it and try to get him out into the grass or gravel and when he goes potty there praise him.
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Thanks for responding! We have had him now for about 2 weeks and he does know where his potty area is and uses it everytime for pooping and most of the time for peeing but this going at the backdoor or the porch posts even while sitting outside with him has to stop! I first thought it might be separation anxiety or marking his boundries or something but really am a loss. This dog has many years of bad behavior, whining, absolutely will not listen but we are trying to take one thing at a time. I am hoping as we go along you guys can help us along the way.
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Thanks for responding! We have had him now for about 2 weeks and he does know where his potty area is and uses it everytime for pooping and most of the time for peeing but this going at the backdoor or the porch posts even while sitting outside with him has to stop! I first thought it might be separation anxiety or marking his boundries or something but really am a loss. This dog has many years of bad behavior, whining, absolutely will not listen but we are trying to take one thing at a time. I am hoping as we go along you guys can help us along the way.
ah yes, 2 weeks...you will need longer than that LOL. What I have learned from this forum is to keep your cool and when he starts to go and you catch him, redirect him to the right area, my favorite "command" to use is "uh uh" because its not a hard punishment but my dogs have learned if I say it, they are doing something they shouldn't. You can also maybe try calling his name in a positive tone when you catch him and call him over to the proper area, hoping when you call his name he pauses what he is doing and comes to you. GL and yes this forum is helpful in many ways!
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if your dog is going on area rugs, maybe he had been paper trained in the past...you might look into it. assuming you have had a vet look him over and he is healthy, the very first thing i recommend is that you take some time to really focus on your own patience. i know it is hard when the dog is soiling your house, but losing patience, especially with potty training, will make the whole process take so much longer. i jsut adopted an older dog for the first time and i haven't had a dog in a while. potty training our dogs when i was a kid was always such a nightmare, so i looked up as much info on it as i could and found some methods that really work. here is what i did:
first, i had to train myself not to react when clover, my dog, had an accident, he saw any reaction as punishment. i am betting your dog has actually been "punished" a lot and never understood what was happening so he never learned anything from it. i would focus as much as possible on rewarding him for good behavior.
next, i put clover on a strict schedule for food, but let him have water when he wanted. i have read sometimes that you might need to schedule water also. when you know when stuff goes in, you know when to expect it to come out.
finally, i took him outside 30 min after a meal or exercise and once every hour. i pointed to the ground and told him "go potty" and gave him a couple of minutes to figure it out. if he didn't go, i would take him back inside and repeat every 15-20 min until he did.
most importantly when he did go, i made sure that i was there to tell him exactly what a wonderful, clever, handsome, cute boy he is, and how much i loved him.
we haven't had an accident for a month now and clover has started to ask to be let out to do his business.
best of all, i never had to lose my cool with him and have an unnecessary negative encounter.
i think that you should try getting a training book, and i would also recommend reading the info on positive training on the best friends website bestfriends.com . they have some really good explanations about positive training and how it works and they have a list of training books that they recommend. you can also ask your vet to recommend a trainer to help with other problems that might come up. i have recieved really valuable feedback from this website also. GOOD LUCK!



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We put him on a schedule for food right away even if he didn't eat for the first few days! You are probably right about the paper training cuz the times he has gone in the house has been on the rugs. Its been 5 whole days since he has 'gone' in the house!!!!!!! The peeing by the backdoor and porch posts hasn't been repeated in one whole day either! lol I know full well if we were to leave him on his own even for a short time we would come back to nice little surprises everywhere. After the first day of just guessing when he was sniffing around we did put him on a schedule to go out and he really does know where his potty area is, he never poops anywhere else but there its that peeing thing on the porch that had me worried! My daughter has been trying to work with him on commands but her patience is in question! lol I am hoping we have a handle on this potty training thing so next is going to be gettin him to sit and stay. He like many dogs I imagine have better things to do than listen when we tell him to sit. Thanks for all the advice!!
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We put him on a schedule for food right away even if he didn't eat for the first few days! You are probably right about the paper training cuz the times he has gone in the house has been on the rugs. Its been 5 whole days since he has 'gone' in the house!!!!!!!

don't forget to stay as consistant with this as you can. your dog will not make mistakes if you don't




He like many dogs I imagine have better things to do than listen when we tell him to sit. Thanks for all the advice!!

he actually does want to sit when you tell him. really....even if it doesn't seem like it, he has most likely had some really bad training in his past and now you get to work through all that mess to get to the good stuff with him. (i did too, with my dog, and it only took a little bit of time for him to go, "wow, i trust you!" or atleast it seemed that way to me!) I really recommend you go to the websites i suggested before and possibly try victoria stillwells book that teaches you how to train. short, positive sessions are the best, and using rewards for good behavior will work. positive training takes patience and creativity, but will really help you develope a great relationship with your dog. oh yeah, lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of exercise! it will help to prevent boredom driven behaviors that are very frustrating to correct.



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ah yes, 2 weeks...you will need longer than that LOL. What I have learned from this forum is to keep your cool and when he starts to go and you catch him, redirect him to the right area, my favorite "command" to use is "uh uh" because its not a hard punishment but my dogs have learned if I say it, they are doing something they shouldn't. You can also maybe try calling his name in a positive tone when you catch him and call him over to the proper area, hoping when you call his name he pauses what he is doing and comes to you. GL and yes this forum is helpful in many ways!
"uh-uh" is very good, it is quick, not too negative and dogs really respond to it!



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