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Old 02-15-2019, 01:21 AM
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I have a german Shepard husky. she is my second dog. we had to put my first dog down(you can read more about that on my other post. Both of the dogs I've had aren't very smart. our first dog attacked the trainer and flunked out of doggy school (seriously). Because of that, we never tried to train the second dog. and personally I don't really want her trained. they were more of a comical relief kind of dog. they are not the dogs you train to play fetch with, take to glamour shows, work as police dogs, or pull sleighs. they are the dogs that make you crack up laughing because they suddenly run into a wall for no reason.

My old dog would run away every chance she got. my current dog is such a spaz, she forgets to run away when she sees us come home, so we're not as careful with her. but sometimes she does run away, and my dad couldn't care less and a lot of the time my mom is too tired to do anything. so I'm stuck yelling at my dog and waving a leash telling her to come here (which doesn't work very well by the way), until one of my parents feels sorry and tries to help.

We still have her, she is not lost or ran away yet, but I don't know how long that's gonna stay, what should i do? Im also afraid that she will slip out of her collar or her leash is gonna slip out of our hands and she's gonna run away when we don't have a car.

by the way, when she and the old dog ran away we get in the car and find her, then we open the door and they come jumping right in. they think they are going for a walk or something. It has worked every time but I don't want to keep trying and testing it, what should i do? Please helpI
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:49 AM
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Hi Dylan,

How is your dog getting loose? is she darting out the door? Does your backyard lack an adequate fence? Is someone forgetting to close and lock a gate? There's a lot you can do to keep her contained.

When you walk her, I'd suggest using a harness. You'll have lot more control, and she won't be able to slip out.

Finally, make sure that your dog is microchipped and that the microchip is registered. Your vet can implant one at a very low cost.

Good luck!
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:36 AM
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Get a gps tracker and keep it on it's collar. It makes me feel much better with my dog who used to be a very talented escape artist and runaway.

He took off a harness and opened a door in one move, so yes a dog can take off a harness! Should have named my dog Houdini!

Op, you say your last dog and current dog weren't and aren't very smart and are and were very dumb and goofy. But they both managed to outsmart you and your whole family many times by escaping a lot and you can't catch or find them very easily.
I am always embarrassed when my current dog outsmarts me and all my efforts and manages to open a gate, take off a harness, jump two six feet fences together, or chew through eight and a half leashes so far in mere seconds and then jump out of my car or run off the second I open a door. He even knows how to roll down the power car windows in the back seat and hold down his button so I can't roll them up from the driver's seat!
So I'm embarrassed that my dog can outsmart me every time, even though I have a lot of education and work experience lol.

Seems your dogs have easily fooled you and your whole family many times, so maybe they're smarter (or were smarter than you're giving credit for!)! Even though you say you don't want to train your dog, don't you think bonding with it or training it to want to be with you would eliminate the run away problems?
My dog rarely to never runs off anymore. He comes back when I call him and always wants more attention. He comes over and gives me his paw and acts jealous in the dog park if I pet other dogs. He now sleeps in my bed and wants belly rubs and literally holds my arm with his paw. He runs to me for pets and pushes his head in my chest if he gets hurt for comfort.

If he runs off, it's always to chase a rabbit, meet a new dog to sniff them, or fiercely bark at and chase off an intruder. He always comes back now, just in those situations not always instantly on the first try. I never have to drive off looking for him and worry like I used to. But the GPS tracker makes me feel much better.

Treats, praise, and keeping your dog in solid fencing with enough exercise every day makes a huge difference.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:25 PM
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You can train a recall without removing any of the fun of your excitable if a little clumsy dog.

A recall is just a reinforcement of coming when called. so start pretty close and call her over, as soon as she turns to you give her a treat. Once she's got that part down delay it until her first step towards you, then a couple of steps and finally for reaching you. Finally, you can start increasing the distance away from you and then increase the distractions.
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Dylan, thank you for caring about your dogs! Seems like you love your dogs a a lot and truly miss the other shepherd that is now in doggie heaven.

You say your dog is getting out and running away? Can you figure out how she is escaping? Poor gate, digging out, holes in fence, jumping fence, bolting out open doors, etc? There are many easy ways to fix these problems if you can tell us how she is escaping.

I would hate for anything bad to happen to her when she is out by herself. Not trying to scare you at all, but just today a lady came into my shop and told me how her last dog used to roam free in her neighborhood all the time (she actually allowed it!) and one day her dog got run over and killed by a car. Very sad and preventable.

Also, I bet you would really enjoy training and bonding with your dog if you learned how to train in a super fun positive reinforcement way!!

After all, you are here trying to learn how to help your dog, right? Good for you! Stay here with us, read all you can and I bet you will end up loving working with your dog!!! Training is so fun for the human and the [email protected]!!!
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:04 AM
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I have been wanting to get her microchip, but my parents are hesitant because we don't really have a "reliable vet". My current dog is a squirmy one. She gets by us when we enter or leave the house, thats how she escapes. We live in a rather quiet neighborhood, but a few corners away is a busy street. If she goes over there I don't think she will last long. I don't remember it but I was told when we took the old dog to the training she fought with the trainer and the trainers hand was bleeding. I also forgot to mention this before but I seriously doubt my current dog can be disciplined. She would do something very naughty and we would be holding shoes or something and threatening her and she would wag her tail. She liked it. I dont know how she can possibly be trained if she likes being threatened.
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:01 AM
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Any vet can put in a microchip in. Once it's done you or your parents register with the microchip company so you're listed as the owners on the national database. One company is called Home Again. You tell the microchip company your or your parents names and phone numbers and addresses. This way if she gets lost and is found by someone any vet office or shelter should be able to find the microchip and scan it and contact the company and find out how to contact you and your family to go pick her up.

Nowadays, many people don't threaten or punish their dogs to train them anymore. They train using positive reinforcement. Which means using praise and patting and the dog's favorite treats whenever it does something right. For your dog you just want to train her to come back every time you call her so if she gets out she'll come running right back to you and not run off.

My dog used to run off and escape all the time and it would take forever for me to find him. It would take even longer for me to catch him once I found him. Because he liked running away and didn't want to be caught. He liked running off and having adventures. He didn't know he could get killed on the road. So I used his favorite bacon treats and spent a lot of time doing lots of fun things with him. So now he knows it's more fun to stay with me than run away.

Tonight I had him in the car on a dark isolated road. I'm also dogsitting two little dogs. I took them on leashes out of the car to take them for a bathroom break. I took too long to close the car door and didn't realize my dog had jumped out of the car to go with me and the other two dogs and didn't want to stay in the car by himself for even two minutes while I quickly walked the other dogs. We were on a long drive and I'd already walked him first.

It was very dark and I couldn't see him anywhere (he's black). I started calling him worried he'd wandered off in the night and I'd never find him and he'd get run over. He was right next to me and I immediately felt his nose on my hand. When I first got him he would chew through leashes and take off. If I dropped the leash for a second he'd take off. So this was huge progress since this was a new area he'd never explored before.

It's better to convince your dog to want to stay around you. Give your dog lots of exercise, Huskies and German Shepherds are both smart dogs who need to have a job to do and a lot of exercise every day in a fenced in area. Play fetch. Practice calling her to come over to you and tell her how good she is when she does
Dogs love to be praised. They also love treats and to be patted. If you threaten or hit them, they're just going to want to run away more. If they're bored they also run off to find fun things to do. Wouldn't you?

Training her to do something she likes and to come back when called can all be done using positive methods.

Training doesn't have to include any threatening or negative methods at all.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:32 AM
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Learn more about your dogs- they dont like being threatened. Any dog can learn discipline. The tail wagging when you threaten her. Its either that she honestly doesnt know what she's doing wrong or she wants your attention bad enough to risk the threat to get it. Any attention, even negative, is better than none at all to some dogs. It works out better if you give your dogs something else to do in place of what you dont want them to do. My german shepherd's basic temperament is very pushy, cocky and in your face. I like that in a dog. He's super obedient to me, but he has to be handled the right way. He'd push right past me out the front door in a heartbeat if he hadnt been trained otherwise. So he's been trained to wait when a door or gate is opened. Its pretty easy to do. You find what your dog really likes, a treat or certain toy whatever. Go to the door and tell her wait, sit, whatever. Open door. She tries to go out, you close it. After a few times of getting the door closed in her face she should get confused. That one time you open the door and she doesnt immediately run for it you reward her. Fast. Before she moves. Then practice over and over. Before long when you open that door she'll stand there waiting for reward rather than run out the door. And think less punishment more motivation. Like with coming when called. The dog needs to be more motivated to come to you than to run off. Never ever ever fuss at her for coming when called. Sure way to get an unreliable recall. Theres a bajillion ways to teach it, but you start by calling her in a happy voice, using whatever you can to get her to come to you. Every single time she comes, reward the living heck out of her. Every time you call her and she doesnt come is just letting her practice not coming when called. You can get a long lead or even a piece of thin rope, 30-50 ft long tie it to her collar. Begin coaxing her to come to you. If she doesnt come, continue coaxing her in a happy voice and gently reel her in with the line. Reward the living heck out of her when she gets to you. Repeat it a few times daily.
One last thing, german shepherds typically fall all over themselves to please their humans once they know how. Hopefully your dog inherited that trait- but you have to learn how to teach her what you want before she can really show you that. Your dog is almost certainly much smarter than you think. Everything you've described is lack of training not a stupid dog.
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I don't remember it but I was told when we took the old dog to the training she fought with the trainer and the trainers hand was bleeding. I also forgot to mention this before but I seriously doubt my current dog can be disciplined. She would do something very naughty and we would be holding shoes or something and threatening her and she would wag her tail. She liked it. I dont know how she can possibly be trained if she likes being threatened.
No need to threaten or harm her to create discipline. My dog would react the same way to that kind of training. This is a great place to start if you are interested it's a free but well structured training guide for simple behaviours like sitting at doors instead of wiggling through and coming when called.
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I didn't realise she actually was already micro-chipped. she is also very fast. when we take her to the dog park, she out runs all the other dogs and has them panting within minutes. Then she starts nudging them to try to get them to continue playing with her. she's so fast I'm not sure the opening of the door treatment would work for her, think she would just escape. We try to walk her at least once a week, but we are very busy and usually aren't able to do that. I personally try not to threaten her, but when you come home to a destroyed house and a guilty looking dog, you are not going to ignore her your going to threaten her.
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