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Old 02-05-2018, 02:23 PM
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Struggles with Eddies zoomies.

Eddie 9 month pup, is a crazy bc x. Very high energy and arrived with no off switch 2 months ago. So far ive used my other dog to help him. I.e. recall her- he comes too. Hes hand shy which affects hand feeding treats. Also plays keep away (3 foot) on recalls. We are working on his trusting me. Problems i need help with:-
1. Jumping up when excited and nipping you on jump. So i have asked for a sit, he sits (click) then leaps at you as you go to give treat. Impulsive bursting would be a way to describe it.
Another rather suprising example happened on walk this morning: i took too long to throw ball for my other dog- so he jumped on my shoulders and bit my head. Very excitedly.
2. Hes not clear headed. He strugles to think clearly as often above threshold. Unless crated- when hes switched off.
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I need help in how to manage such insane level of prey drive in a as yet, untrained dog. I would appreciate more examples of its your choice games perhaps? And what i want is for eddie to be able to relax. Hes getting plenty of exercise, juice (gsd pup 14 months) to play with. And short 3 minute training sessions x 4 daily. Weve been working on perch- getting him to take food from my hand. Will if on perch, but not generalising this as early days. So wont in lounge room for instance.
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Wow. Not one response. Is this black balling me?
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Sometimes Riley will snap for his treat, not trying to bite me just snap at the air, when he does that I tell him know and wait until he will sit calmly for me to give him his treat with jumping up and snapping at the air. So maybe when he jumps up for the treat just correct him and wait until he sit's calmly to reward him.
Place (stay on a mat/bed/etc and stay calm until release) helps create a calm space for a dog that can often translate into a calmer dog. Maybe try that?
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Lightbulb tether & B-mod.

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Wow. Not one response. Is this blackballing me?
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don't get paranoid, LOL - posts get bumped down the roster by newer posts, & are buried.
Plus, lots of folks are lurkers rather than posters, who just lookey-loo & move to the next thread. :shrug:
IME, something between 10% & 25% of any forum's membership are active posters; the rest rarely or never post.


to return to yer dog's issues with impulse control - there are loads of possible ways to either B-Mod or manage it.
For the jumping, i'd tether him & work on it by rewarding 4-feet-on-the-floor heavily, but swerve away when he jumps.

here's a series of 7 vid-clips of LAYLA, a notorious habitual jumper who had already injured 2 adults -


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Hey Terry. Cant see videos? I am rewarding 4 feet on floor. So sun roast with 3 kids, partners and grandchildren 'test' of progress: eddie on leash. Baby in daughters arms, a huge trigger to jump as baby crying. And jumped, but couldnt get far as my foot on dragging leash. And that was it! No jumps after getting nowhere and treating when sits for pats n treat and to see/sniff/lick baby then left daughter/baby alone. Till next crying baby n he comes legging it into lounge barking to let us know baby is awake in bedroom. On leash he comes to babies room, sits and i pass baby for another checkover by eddie whilst sat being fed treats. We do have progress. Slow going, but compared to sunday dinner last week- were getting there?
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I'm just curious why you don't train Eddie the same as you have your IPO dogs?
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He would not pass temperament test to train with a club. Very different behaviours IPO to working sheep. Tracking works though?
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@ leashed4life: been doing this alone. He's good with me, coz im boring. Getting a helper is difficult.
When i get home from work, i ignore him till he sits. click/treat whilst i clip leash on, whilst saying hi, step on that leash, and straighten up, but with food in hand at his head height. click/treat for staying sat.

Had to smile at gloves on helper. Eddie has shown little bite inhibition on 2 occasions i have worn gloves. So i removed them for now. The video reminded me to bring them back in. So thanks.
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Ahh, the teenage dog stage, always loads of fun! Thank goodness it does not last for 8 years like it does with us humans.

To harness the prey drive maybe make a flirt pole with a real skin on it and some sort of animal scent like they use to attract animals during hunting season.

Teach release cues, like drop it, or bring it back to you. It'll work both his mind and body. I will say that if you are going to use him for herding it might not be something you should use since it involves chasing and catching, not moving livestock in the direction you want them to go and may teach him to cause chaos when turned loose on sheep.

If you're just teaching him to not jump up on you, and don't want him to hold a sit position, maybe dropping the reward, rather then handing it to him, would work better. If you want him to hold the position then you are going to have to teach him that jumping up not only does not get him the treat but also causes the human to completely ignore him and if necessary leave him alone for a few minutes. Sort, he sits like you ask, so you click then as you give him the treat he jumps up to snatch it. First I'd keep the treat in my fist so he has no target to snatch at, and if necessary I'd have on a chainmail glove like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00W5DMX3C so that if he grabbed at my fist it'd get him nothing. If I got down to him and he was still sitting open fist and give treat, if he snatches close fist till he settles, then try again. If he jumps up stand straight and ignore him till he sits then try clicking and treating again. If he keeps jumping go away from him and leave him alone for a couple minutes. He needs to learn that the consequence of jumping causes the things he wants to go away, and that 4 on floor is the best thing ever, treats, attention, play, walks, etc only happen when he is not jumping on his human. That type of training may take awhile but it does work.

Shadow my terrier mix had decided that my cousin David should not come over, he wasn't afraid of him just took a dislike to him, and every time he did Shadow would start growling, and hard staring. I'd tell Shadow enough and he'd keep it up so I'd pick him up and put him outside till David left. Shadow's goal in life was to be inside. There came a day when David came over and Shadow started growling then stopped, looked at me, looked at David, laid down and just kept an eye on things, he got to stay inside and was content LOL.
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