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Old 07-08-2010, 11:59 PM
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when was his last vet visit? and did you bring this up to the vet? if not, it would be pretty hard for him/her to guess like dog shrink said, this is quite possibly highly unusual behavior for THIS BREED...



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Old 07-09-2010, 12:44 AM
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I don't see why anything would be wrong. The vet never said anything. But I will check it out. (:
Well it appears that something COULD be wrong depending on your definition of "my dog sleeps A LOT". If Buddy is lazy because he is severly over weight then there absolutely could be medical reasons he's sleeping "alot", If buddy isn't over weight but still not active, then there is reason to be concerned because this is out of breed character, and could either be 1 of 2 things, a genetic defect or illness that is causing it, or 2, just a quarky individual dog trait, regardless of breed. I certainly hope it's the latter BUT until it has been disproven to stem from a medical cause it is prudent to screen for possibilities. I'm sure knowing where it comes from is well worth the piece of mind spending the $$ on the test (which shouldn't honestly be more than $110 dollars).

Vets don't generally think to look for "out of breed characteristics" as a possible symptom for defect or illness. Being a behaviorist I always look at "why does a dog act the way he does" and the second question is usually "could there be a medical reason for it", because in behavioral modification you ALWAYS have to rule out possible medical reasons a behavior might be presenting itself. Doing behavior work is more than just "TRAINING" dogs, it's knowinf breed propensities, knowing a good bit about canine health/nutrition and how it affects behavior, it's about thinking outside of the box when most people are lost, about looking at the animal as a whole, and how that whole is torn apart if just 1 aspect is off (then finding it), rather than looking at it in it's physiological parts as a vet does. Being a behaviorist is like playing the ultimate "where's Waldo" puzzle. Only after you've looked at ALL the parts can you make a complete picture of what is really goiong on, and FIND what you're looking for.

So yes, a Min pin, that is sleeping in excess, which is out of breed characteristic, should IMO be a cause for concern.

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Old 07-10-2010, 12:52 PM
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Yes, that is a good point. but Buddy did come from a shelter. So we do not know his complete backround. It could be something that happened before we got him that's not Disease related. He is not overwheight. He is active when he goes out, is on the deck/crate, and when he gets one of his treats. We try to get him as active as possible when possible.
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ya see that's the problem.. with a min pin even a mix, you shouldn't have to TRY and get him active, you should have to try and calm him down. Can you post a pic or 2 of him so that I can see his breed mix?

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There are some pics here:
https://www.dogforum.com/dogs/buddy_584/
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Ok... there is def. min pin in there and he is def. a bit overweight. He could likely stand to lose about 3-4 lbs, it doesn't sound like much but when you consider it's likely 1/4th his overall weight (or should be) then it is quite significant.
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Yeah. He could lose a few pounds.

This is stressing me out! Everybody just said he was okay, and now I'm just now you say that something is terribly wrong. Sorry I'm just stressed out.
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Don't be stressed. I said his sleeping so much was out of character for a min pin. Take some weight off him and get the blood panel done. Hypothyroid, cushings, addisons are all things that come to mind that are possibilities for that breed, that also result in side effects of excessive sleeping and over weight. No need to panic. Just be smart. I'll help you however you need.

I see from his profile that you're feeding him benefuls... PLEASE change that asap. It is absolute JUNK. I know there are a ton of threads here and I Know a couple brands that are similar in price but WAY better for him. Tractor supply carries a brand called 4 Health that is about $1 a pound http://4healthdogfood.tripod.com/ it also comes in a lamb and rice which they don't mention on their web site (I didn't see it on the main page, it might be on the products page thos). I had my hypothyroid boxer/am bull on it and he did really well. Lost the weight, got a good coat of hair in and his last kidley analasys came back perfect despite the 21% protein (kidney dogs aren't suppose to have over 12%, but in a 10 yr old dog anything under 18% and you risk protein deficiency diseases).

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I'll check out the food, help him lose a few lbs., and check out with the vet about a blood panel. (If he says it's necessary.)
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What is the best dog food for a Min Pin?
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