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Old 04-02-2019, 09:13 AM
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Rant about aggressive little dog attacking large dog

Ok slight rant. Owners of small dogs also need to train them basic manners. It's not ok to jump on people, just like it isn't for big dogs.
And it most definitely is not ok to let your small aggressive dog chase and harass a larger dog endlessly while barking incessantly and even jumping up and biting it on the shoulder repeatedly while said larger dog runs away frantically trying to escape without fighting back.
That's not "cute" or "fine" or "only barking" as it's owner said when repeatedly asked to control her dog. It's aggressive, and this untrained little monster should not be allowed in public off leash dog areas. The owner should not be allowed to have animals since they can't recognize dangerous behavior and refuses to contain the aggressive dog. I even stepped in and got between them and firmly told the little dog no and to back off. If someone else had to intervene with my dog or a dog I'm watching I would have gotten the hint and contained the dog. No I was told "it's fine" and replied "it's not fine your dog is being aggressive and harassing the dog and you need to stop him right now".
My dog knows to run to me and jump up on to an agility thing or up high and that's his signal to me he's had it. I then chase off any dogs bothering him if needed. If I ignore his signal he takes care of if it himself and fights off the dog. We've learned to trust each other.
This was a young energetic hyper non-aggressive dog that's buddies with my dog. Typical golden retriever who loves everyone and no history of aggression. If a dog growls he just trots off to another one. Not at all possessive. I've seen him at this place with his regular dog walker and he played with my dog and I've cared for him many times. Not well trained for leash manners but sweet gentle personality. His regular dog walker and his owner have repeatedly told me that he's a sweet gentle dog with absolutely no history of any aggression towards anyone.
He just panicked and ran. He doesn't know to run to me or jump on the agility equipment. He's young and not well trained and scared because he can't shake off this rat harassing him.
Some dogs are sensitive to noises and get stressed by lots of barking alone, let alone being chased and nipped repeatedly. My own dog hates dogs barking at him. He will stop playing and just walk away.
When the large dog finally does fight back as it's provoked beyond any other means and has no escape, attempting to kick and harm it while screaming after you have secured your little rat is just more bad judgment. Luckily for you the dog did not injure or kill your dog or even leave a mark. If the large dog wanted too, your aggressive little dog would have been dead in one split second. Consider yourself lucky your rat was given a warning. Maybe next time it won't repeatedly attack a gentle dog ten times its weight. I can think of several large dogs I know that do have issues with hurting small dogs that would quickly seriously injure or kill your dog for irritating them.
Just as I told the other owner that it wasn't fine and she needed to control her dog and stop him or eventually the big dog was going to get fed up and fight back, he did. With no other option he seemed to snap, and turned on the little dog and pinned it. Of course the fierce little bully immediately started shrieking like it was being murdered and everyone started running to save it. As I headed over my dog jumped in and fixed the situation. He raced over, growled at and lightly mouthed at the golden, giving him a warning nip. The golden let go of the small dog. My dog came trotting back to me. The owner of the small dog barely looked at her dog who was fine and trotting away from the big dogs and started advancing towards the golden screaming at him with her arms raised and acting like she was going to beat or kick him. So I had intervene again and tell her very firmly that she better not touch that dog and to back off when he was just defending himself against her aggressive dog attacking him and this was her own fault for not controlling her dog or listening to my repeated requests to stop her dog.
She kept screaming nonsense that I had two aggressive dogs because then my dog put himself between me and her but didn't do anything else. I told her my dog did nothing to her dog or any dog but didn't like people yelling or acting threatening to me or him so she could keep telling all she wanted and he would get protective. But he never even growled at her just silently watched her.
Complete circus because of one person who shouldn't be allowed to even be around animals. But because the larger dog reacted after lots of provocation he gets called aggressive simply because he has the potential to cause more damage.
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I think it's annoying when anyone doesn't control their dog - small or large. I've had both kinds run up to me and mine and I don't appreciate it one bit.

That said, I am the owner of two dogs that are considered "small" (both less than 30 lbs). They're not rats and that's a nasty generalization I've heard both of them called. One is well behaved, the other is fear reactive and, while not aggressive and I manage him well, he's certainly never gotten a pass because he's smaller. People have called him mean before. It's hurtful but whatever, just stay out of our space.
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I didn't mean it as an insult to all small dogs or all small dog owners so I apologize if it came across that way.
This particular dog wasn't afraid but was aggressively going after, chasing and nipping the larger dog who was actively running away and looking stressed. I understand that could be considered herding and a game but I told the dog to stop and it wasn't a game for the big dog.
He was panting and overheated for a good twenty minutes afterwards and it was only in the forties afterwards. They we're physically running much too fast for me to catch either of them and he was in a blind panic.
I simply haven't worked with him enough for him to know to run to me as my dog does.
I'm hoping he'll trust me more from protecting him from the angry woman who looked like she was going to kick him. Unfortunately I had to yell at her to get through her rage. I certainly wasn't going to physically touch her and risk an assault charge or altercation or my protective dog really attacking her to protect me.

I know rats are good pets but that dog was aggressive and not trained. I can think of some words to call the owner but they're not suitable for the internet. I know it's really her fault and not the dog's but it was a highly stressful incident so it's hard to be politically correct in every situation all the time.
Plus I had to euthanize my beloved cat last week after a six month battle with cancer. Had him since he was a five month old kitten and he was fourteen. My other cat and dog are depressed and unpredictable now and I'm sure I'm more reactive as well. But I don't want my dog to have any more stress from an irresponsible owner.
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What a sucky situation! Yup, it was certainly not the lil dog's fault---it was entirely the irresponsible, uncaring, unknowledgeable, rude owner of the lil dog who allowed her dog to continue harassing the bigger dog. Esp if you warned her! Geez! Some people just don't understand dog behavior at all!!!!! (or don't care...) Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Everyone is lucky that no one really got hurt there. Probably bc you were actually watching and paying attention to the dogs interaction. And willing to do something about it before it got really bad.

All sizes of dogs need training and manners! Doesn't matter if the dog is little or big.

I always say that many times people see a dog scuffle or fight or bite and think it is the fault of the stronger more aggressive looking dog. But many times, it is the opposite. The other dog is to blame, as it repeatedly ignored the body language and warning signs given off by the "aggressive" dog. But the bigger strong dog seems to get the blame in most cases. Sigh.

So very sorry about your beloved cat. I am sure that is super hard for all of you guys right now. Sending you my sympathies....
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Thanks Athenalove. It's definitely very sad. Pets definitely don't live long enough!
I realized yesterday when I picked up the same dog that now my dog doesn't like him after the incident. My dog started growling the minute I put the other dog in the car. Very frustrating. What's weird was when they first met my dog growled at him but I used lots of treats and praise to get them to be friendly and they started playing and then were friends. Now this idiot ruined that again.

I think initially my dog was jealous because I had gone out and left him home alone and walked the other dog. So he smelled the dog and recognized him as the dog I'd been "cheating" on him with while he was left home alone lol.
Then he realized he had a fun wrestling buddy and I was including him too. Now he associates the other dog with fighting and people yelling.

The woman was there again and I realized she might be one of the dogwalkers that takes over the park during the weekdays. Big reason why I usually only go after work hours. Even worse if she's working with dogs all day. We didn't say a single word to each other.
The golden retriever was visibly afraid of all dogs that approached him and especially gave smaller dogs the big hairy eyeball. He chose to fixate on a tennis ball the whole time. Neither he nor my dog would even look at each other to attempt to play.

The little aggressive dog came back at the end but the dog walkers made a much stronger effort to control him. I left pretty soon after he appeared. Well tried to lol. The golden retriever decided he wanted to stay so was hard to catch.
I wish there was a safe fenced area I could go with just the two dogs next time but there isn't. The other places around aren't fully fenced which I can't risk with someone else's dog. My dog is better but still can run off to chase things occasionally.

No good options for city people.
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Ohhh that is not cool that now your dog and this golden are at odds. All bc of some irresponsible uncaring dog walker! She needs a new profession, right???!!

I can see that your dog would associate negative stuff now with the golden. But hopefully it will soften and your dog and the other will able to hang out peacefully together soon. Your dog sounds secure and confident now and trusts you, so I am betting he will bounce back soon and be ok with his new buddy. And if the golden didn't want to leave the park...that is a good sign, right? Not too traumatized by the incident yesterday with the lil dog up in his face.

Today a lady came in my shop and told me that she was peacefully walking her gentle dog around her apartment complex when they saw another dog at a distance. The other dog barked at hers...then the @#$&*!! owner suddenly unclipped her dog off the leash and let her dog came bounding straight towards her dog at full speed!! Totally rude dog greeting. She was so mad!! She had to literally grab the other dog to keep it from traumatizing/hurting her gentle dog.

What ever happened to manners???

People need manners with their dogs. Not the dogs faults AT ALL. It is the owners/handlers/dog walkers fault for not controlling their dogs and insisting on teaching good safe manners. Just like with kids, right???? Kids and dogs aren't born with good manners--we adults have to teach them.

Good manners = safer dog interactions.

Spread the word!!!

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