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Old 04-29-2009, 11:09 PM
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i agree with criosphynx. a good dominant male will show his agression without fighting. dogs evolved to be able to show dominance with minimal fighting. they're main job is to survive and to survive they have to be able to capture prey. if they were fighting all the time they would be too exhasted and hurt to be able to catch prey.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:50 PM
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Hi there I want to thank everyone for their responses and ideas. So, its not a problem at all anymore. As I said, for the rest of the day I worked on approaching him and the bone, and by a few hours there was NO issue at all. I would approach the bone, putting my hand over it, putting my hand in his mouth, taking the bone for a second, asking him to sit then giving it back, moving it over a couple inches and he was perfect. I also worked on him getting his neck rubbed and touched while he ate it. This I agree with a trust thing, where he was not trusting of us yes touching his neck (I think most likely because his former owner scruffed his neck frequently when he got into trouble). Another thing I have been doing is when we play and cuddle together, I do roll him on his back. Not aggressively or in a dominant way, but in a fun loving playful way and he likes it. He is playing with our fox terrier often on his back. They switch off with one another being on top. With the fighting response, I dont think that sphynx you are totally correct. Animals fight frequently in the wild. In almost every pack, herd or group of animals, the Alpha or leader is regualrly being challenged by other males to take over. It just what happens. With dogs, horses, apes, gorillas, walruses, lions. In most herd and pack animals, one male has a group of females, and when the young males grow to a ceratin age they are kicked out. These males that get kicked out form a group, but when they are strong enough, challenge leaders of packs and herds to take them over. I know that when a young male lion challenges a alpha male of a pack, if the young male wins, he will go through the pack and kill ALL of the baby cubs, and then mate with the female lions... So I definitely think that some aspects of fighting are instinctual. It is situational. Not every situation does it make sense for an animal to fight back, but definitely some. But back to mogli, he is a ownderful guy that I believe was testing to see where he stood in our pack. I also forgot to mention that the bone he did it with was raw with chunks of raw meat hanging off, so I think that his insinctual side came out then too, along with his distrust with his neck at the time, and him testing his boundaries. Thanks again everyone!
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:56 PM
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And to steve, it doesnt mean they are fighting ALL the time. I dont think that fighting all the time is normal, but many situations come up in the wild where they have to defend their position as leader. This is usually what gets the trust of the members of the group, when one wins a fight with another. Plus, the leader doesnt get as hurt as the other. And they are not getting challenged all the time, only when another feels they are stronger and can beat the leader. Its not like that is happening everyday.
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