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Old 07-27-2014, 05:42 PM
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Owner bitten twice hard in the last 24 hrs.....how to regain trust?

Some events that happened this week leading up to the two bites...

Anal glands expressed for the first time by a new groomer (anus is still swollen and red), been staying at my friend's place with another older large dog, had a few vaccinations, and recently returned from two day trip to the mountains (12 hours in the car).

So yes, he might be a little pooped and perhaps out of his element. On both occasions I was bit when trying to bath him.

I'm over the bite and want him to know I'm over it. He's been withdrawn and curled up in a corner since the attack.

How do I get my buddy back? Please help!
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Old 07-27-2014, 07:32 PM
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Let him chill. He's stressed, in pain, away from his routine and miserable. He needs to be left alone, spoken to quietly and rewarded for any positive interactions. He'll recover.

Call the vet, his anus shouldn't be hurting him that badly.
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What @amaryllis said. Make sure to give him lots of space-stop pressing him for attention, or anything. No more stressful events for a while (look up trigger stacking). Once he's feeling better he'll come back to you
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Yes, what Amaryllis said. If the anal glands are not expressed properly, they can be permanently damaged, and surgery to remove them might be necessary. Please have them checked out ASAP, as he could be in a lot of discomfort or pain. After a discussion with my vet, I would never have anal glands expressed by anyone other than a vet. FWIW, if the diet is correct, they won't need expressing. Be careful until you know he is on the mend, then give him time and he'll go back to his old self. His reaction is totally understandable at this point.
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Let him chill. He's stressed, in pain, away from his routine and miserable. He needs to be left alone, spoken to quietly and rewarded for any positive interactions. He'll recover.

Call the vet, his anus shouldn't be hurting him that badly.
I completely underestimated the importance of familiarity and routine for dogs. My guy has always been highly curious and energetic which led me to believe that change of scenery/surroundings/interactions wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. A LOT has happened this past week and I guess my guy is just burned out from too much stimulation.

He's back home in his favorite spot asleep but curled up in a ball

I guess I just have to give him his time and space and hope he comes around?
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Yes, what Amaryllis said. If the anal glands are not expressed properly, they can be permanently damaged, and surgery to remove them might be necessary. Please have them checked out ASAP, as he could be in a lot of discomfort or pain. After a discussion with my vet, I would never have anal glands expressed by anyone other than a vet. FWIW, if the diet is correct, they won't need expressing. Be careful until you know he is on the mend, then give him time and he'll go back to his old self. His reaction is totally understandable at this point.
No major changes in his bowel movements since the expression....would this rule out potential damage of his anal glands? There is a pink colored bubble that has formed on the outer surface of his anus. No blood, just a lot of licking in that area.

Can you please clarify comment "be careful until you know he is on the mend..." So wait a few days and then take him to Vet?

Thanks for your input
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What @amaryllis said. Make sure to give him lots of space-stop pressing him for attention, or anything. No more stressful events for a while (look up trigger stacking). Once he's feeling better he'll come back to you
Extremely insightful and informative, thank you so much for your feedback. I just looked up trigger stacking on the Web and better understand why my dog did what he did. ALOT has happened to him during the last 7 days; he was muzzled by a new groomer, forced to share an unfamiliar space with an 80 lb. female alpha dog, and exposed to the new sights, sounds and smells of the California wilderness.

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No major changes in his bowel movements since the expression....would this rule out potential damage of his anal glands? There is a pink colored bubble that has formed on the outer surface of his anus. No blood, just a lot of licking in that area.

Can you please clarify comment "be careful until you know he is on the mend..." So wait a few days and then take him to Vet?

Thanks for your input
I'd take him to the vet sooner rather than later.
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Extremely insightful and informative, thank you so much for your feedback. I just looked up trigger stacking on the Web and better understand why my dog did what he did. ALOT has happened to him during the last 7 days; he was muzzled by a new groomer, forced to share an unfamiliar space with an 80 lb. female alpha dog, and exposed to the new sights, sounds and smells of the California wilderness.

Thank you Kwenami!!
I'm glad it helped!

You might also want to read some of these articles, or videos:

https://www.dogforum.com/training-beh...nce-dogs-4076/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33mL...ature=youtu.be

A bit off topic, but a lot of the commonly believed dominance theories have been proven ineffective, and this forum strongly supports positive reinforcement training. You'll find especially with a dog that can be fearful it helps way more to not push things, which is what someone with a dominance background would be more likely to suggest.

A bit more on topic, I'd like to recommend Sophia Yin's "How to Behave so Your Dog Behaves". It has info on things like trigger stacking, and a ton of similar ideas and insights into dog (and all animal) behaviour that I think you would enjoy It really makes training and cohabiting with your dog a lot more fun, and explains a few methods (counter conditioning) really well on how to deal with chronically fearful animals. I think you'd get a lot out of it if you were interested
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Thanks for sharing Kwenami!
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