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Old 10-25-2017, 08:02 AM
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@Floki you are not the least bit confusing, no need to apologize. You are doing just fine!
Enjoy your dog, glad to hear things are going well for the both of you.
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@Floki you are not the least bit confusing, no need to apologize. You are doing just fine!
Enjoy your dog, glad to hear things are going well for the both of you.
Thank you so much, I have high hopes now. My husband was amazed when he took him for a walk last night. He couldn’t believe how well training is going...so far.
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Also any tips on how to get notifications?
Sometimes I get them and others I do not.
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it took me a while to discover that i must use "thread tools" & subscribe to every thread where i've replied, if i want to be notified of new replies.
Other forums apparently make this automatic?, b/c on them, any thread where i post, i get updates of new replies - but DF does not.

* Click THREAD TOOLS
[on the upper right, in the OP header, the 1st post in the thread - it's the 2nd tab from the left].
* A drop-down menu opens - choose which subscription U'd like, & click it.
* A pop-up window opens, & announces the added subscription -
it includes a link to return U to the thread, but after a few seconds, U should be automatically re-directed to that thread, which U've just subscribed.

Done & dusted!

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I posted this link yesterday, in a different thread -
https://canis.no/laer-klikkertrening/

Clip #1 shows a black puppy with 2 red 'boxes' stacked as a platform; she keeps her forefeet on the platform, & she is being taught to move counter-clockwise toward her handler, as he moves to his right, away from her, in session one.
Basically, it's a slow-motion "chase" with the pup at a given distance - he moves, she moves, he moves.

by session #3, she has been shaped to target his left leg with the right side of her body, assuring close contact.
This is another way to get a dog to "choose to heel", vs be controlled to keep them there; LLW / Loose-Leash Walk is a less-structured version, where the pup or dog is taught to give to the least bit of pressure, & to stay within a short distance, so that the leash hangs with a little J-hook of slack from their collar.

LLW is a more-casual everyday style, where the dog has more freedom to move ahead, beside, behind, or out to the side a bit, but they don't pull; the leash is not taut.
Heel is formal, with a narrowly-defined box where the dog should stay, a given distance to the left of one's knee, their shoulder & neck at a specific point in relation to the handler's stance or gait.

This is "choose to heel" -

There's no narration - ambient traffic, & a few words now & then, plus the clicker to mark desired position.

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Thanks again!
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Updating this morning’s walk....on my feet, on the leash acting like a wild oochie! Ugh He did great while training but as soon as we walk bam, attack...next walk I’ll bring a toy again to walk with instead of my shoes. Frustrated but not giving up.
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Good :-):-) Maybe try stopping when he starts going crazy and once he is done start walking again that might help :-):-)
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Good :-):-) Maybe try stopping when he starts going crazy and once he is done start walking again that might help :-):-)
Thanks. He’s seriously like a jack rabbit on crack! Lol
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Oh I understand LOL :-):-):-) When you stop they look at you like your crazy so have a camera ready because it's pretty hilarious. Look is 'what the heck did we stop for' face LOL :-):-):-)
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bear with me - this might sound totally irrelevant, but it does have a specific goal.
When U walk, how fast do U walk? - if U were to walk a measured mile, how long would it take? 20-mins? 40?

2nd Q:
how do U walk, when walking with the dog?
- I'm watching my dog most of the time; my eyes are on him, not my intended direction.
- I watch the dog some of the time; I slow down to observe him ["fits & starts"].
- I watch my dog peripherally, keep my eyes on a near-distance goal, & choose a new goal when i get close to the current one.
The leash gives me almost as much info as my eyes, per his gait, position, & direction.

It may sound silly, but handlers tend to slow down when things aren't going well; in fact, it helps the dog if U move briskly, & look WHERE U INTEND to go, rather than at the dog. Try to "listen" with the leash, vs look with yer eyes, & when he starts acting like a twit, jog with him.
Try to maintain a brisk walk, so he's not trotting but is walking smartly along with U, & when he gets distracted, cheerfully say, "Let's go!", & JOG off. He'll re-focus & jog along.

In-between point-to-point brisk walking, pause to give him sniff-time; he needs the self-calming effect as much as he does the enrichment from exploring odors. Choose places that are likely to be dog-signposts.

NOTE:
He doesn't need to mark everywhere U pause - in fact, encourage him to empty his bladder entirely at home; THEN his walk is his reward. Foul weather is coming, if U live in temperate climes, & there will be days when "out to potty" is as far as U will get! -- he needs to develop the habit, pee / poop ASAP, not 2-miles along the way.


Back to walks & clues for the dog - "looking where i'm going" gives the dog key info about where we're headed, so they aren't wandering aimlessly, playing catch-up, or constantly wondering WTH we're doing out here.
Dogs track our gazes automatically in order to read our intentions, so when i focus on a power-pole halfway down the block, then the parked car at the corner, then the swing-set in that yard 4 houses away, the dog i'm handling has a good idea of where we are going, & can relax & aim there.


Suggestion:
a slick-surfaced hard ball that's too big to bite is perfect for dog "soccer" - U kick it, he uses forelegs, paws, chest, nose, shoulder-bumps, & hip-slams to send it rolling or flying.
Here's one -
Horse, Pony, & Equine Toys to Relieve Stall Boredom: Best Ball Horse Toy

It can't be deflated, but i wouldn't leave it outside 24 / 7; UV will make it brittle, & winter freeze-thaw would also shorten its lifespan. // I'd put it indoors, in a temp-controlled area, when it's not in play.
U can play with in snow, of course! - I just wouldn't leave it out there for frigid nights & full-sun days, if U want it to last.

A 5 or 6-minute game of soccer can take a lot of the crazies out of him, B4 a walk - making it more productive & less frustrating for both of U.

- terry


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