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Old 06-30-2018, 11:22 AM
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Neutered male still wants to mount female

We have a five-year-old male Keeshond-Pomeranian mix named Friederik. We rescued him not quite a year ago from two states away. I knew when I got him that he was neutered, but I have no idea whether this took place when he was a young puppy or just shortly before we got him.

About two months ago, we got a four-month old female Min-Australian Sherherd named Hannah. She turned six months old earlier this week. We have an appointment for her to be spayed on Monday.

Friederik and Hannah hit it off from the start and have become best friends, which is something I'm thrilled about. Yesterday and today, I noticed him mounting her. I'd never seen him do so before. I'm hoping she's not in heat. I see no indications that she is. But I'm wondering if it is common for a neutered male to still want to mount a female. Friederik also has marking issues indoors , which I am attributing to him possibly not having been neutered at a young age. Could the age at which he was neutered have anything to do with his starting to mount her? (He has never attempted to mount our legs or anything like that.)
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Old 06-30-2018, 12:59 PM
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Yes, my neutered male mounts other dogs, both male and female all the time and goes absolutely crazy when he's around a female in heat or one starting to go into heat. He's also much more likely to not back down from a fight with an unneutered male, especially an adolescent male who's trying to boss him around.
I don't know when he was neutered either, I got him at sixteen months old and he's three and a half now. I actually had him ultrasounded to make sure he was fully neutered and not a cryptorchid because he doesn't act neutered. That test shows from the scar tissue that he was actually neutered early. Vets and a veterinary behaviorist told me male dogs produce testosterone their whole lives even after being neutered, so it's really useless for behavior changes. I've seen dogs at the park get more aggressive after being neutered.
My last dog was neutered at nine and a half or ten months and his whole life, even when he was quite old, occasionally he'd meet a female he'd like and they'd mount and act unneutered even if they both were neutered. So does this dog. Apparently they can still enjoy the act just not be fertile any more.
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I actually had him ultrasounded to make sure he was fully neutered and not a cryptorchid because he doesn't act neutered. That test shows from the scar tissue that he was actually neutered early. Vets and a veterinary behaviorist told me male dogs produce testosterone their whole lives even after being neutered, so it's really useless for behavior changes.
Wow! This was so informative for me. I've never heard of a cryptorchid before, and I had no idea that you could actually do a test to give you a better idea of when a dog was neutered. I'm going to have to check this out further. Friederik also has major problems with indoor marking which, as you can well imagine, is driving me up a wall. He's going in to the vet on Tuesday for some blood work, because he has Addison's disease and it's time for us to review his meds. But the idea that he may not have been "fully neutered" is really intriguing to me and something I want to look into.
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I think it's relatively rare but a cryptorchid is when one or both testicles don't descend or fully descend, then they still have the behaviors of a non neutered dog. I have horses and know about this from that where it's more widely known as stallions are known for being potentially aggressive and dangerous.

I didn't know an ultrasound could determine whether a dog was neutered early or late, so that was news to me. They didn't give me a specific age range. My vet behaviorist told me that if a dog is a cryptorchid the undescended testicles are a much greater cancer risk so it's very important to do the abdominal surgery to remove them as soon as possible.
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