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Old 01-08-2018, 07:42 AM
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How to teach your dog to respect your space, I guess

My 82 pound Á medicine who put back together the Celtics said the same thing.

So he can't fool around but absolutely HAS to respect me. My omom lltrained my last dog perfectly, but would bump him with the wheeled cart if he got strong. Obviously not positive reinforcement but it works to contain him for the moment.
Effective easy solutions since it's a safety issue?
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I'm honestly a little confused here. Some clarifaction may help people give advice.
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Old 01-08-2018, 03:05 PM
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Sorry my smartphone autocorrected and I missed the chance to edit.
My large dog loves to run and wrestle and play with other dogs at the local dog park.
He gets along fine at other dogs but when he gets his zoomies when playing or is simply running and playing, he'll frequently run or crash right into me or other humans. He's 82 pounds and has knocked down several people. Especially when playing with other dogs his size or larger.
I have a bad knee and the surgeon said the next surgery will need a year recovery and months in an immobilizer brace and I won't be able to do anything. So I'm trying to avoid injuring it, especially in all the current ice and snow.
How do I teach him not to run into me or other people when he's running and playing with other dogs? With other dogs he jumps over them lol.
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He'll also make a mad dash for the bed the second we get home and stretch out over the whole thing and not move when I tell him to until I either grab his collar or basically start to sit on him.
No growling, no threats no aggression, just passive resistance.
My last dog moved instantly and ran the minute you said the word move. But he stayed with my mom a lot who was disabled and a bit high-strung and was afraid of falling so if she tripped over any pets she probably screamed at him a lot. Plus she'd walk him l around her neighborhood and was too proud to use a walker or wheelchair so just took a shopping cart everywhere. If he didn't stay right with her she'd probably get anxious and start cursing and bump him or run his paws over with the shopping cart lol.
Sorry if that sounds abusive but it was many years ago, she died 8 years ago, and she lived and spoiled that dog rotten, used to call him her grandson. She was a bit feisty to say the least and her doctors had no idea how she was walking at all as with her level of disability she should have been completely wheelchair bound.
But not only did she walk, she had my 75 pound tank of an Akita pitbull under full control on the leash with her little shopping cart marching all around the city. He loved going to her place, she'd watch him while I was at work. Anyway she had mastered the move command with my last dog far better than I have with my current dog!
And it really isn't nice that when he's having fun playing he takes full grown people down crashing onto them. Can I train him to respect human space better?
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Probably need to work on managing arousal level. I do so with my crew via recalling when play starts to escalate towards a level I didlike but well before it reaches that point. I then ask for some calmer behaviors they know well (sits, downs, chin rest/target, etc.), reward, and then release back to play.

Given your situation may want to actually consider other options. I would do stuff like classes, doggy playdates with calmer dogs... Options that are less arousing and that I have more control over.
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For the bed and any other situation you need to move him you might find a hand target (a.k.a. "touch") useful.
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Thanks for the tips. He eventually moves I just get frustrated that I have to tell him more than once. He always steals my spot lol.
He usually doesn't run that much, he and many dogs in this area have been cooped up from extreme cold for about two weeks. He usually just wrestles with his buddies but even then he doesn't care about bumping into people. I don't like being bumped into by two wrestling 80+ pound dogs who are also chewing on each other. In a whole large park they're always right on the people.

I personally think it's good for them to get out their energy and get tired but he can learn to respect people's space, in my opinion.
I don't want to curtail the play just have him choose to navigate better.
Play dates are a challenge since many of us are city dwellers who don't have safe fenced in yards. So the dog park or other parks are one of few options. There are many unfenced options but he's not trustworthy.
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For the bed thing, that's easier... I would have your dog on leash before opening the door. Or, put a baby gate up. This way he does not have the ability to dash onto your bed. If you want to allow him onto your bed, by all means! But he can learn to ask for permission rather than bound up there without a second thought.

The dog play thing is harder. I think if you have a good relationship with your dog and a good obedience foundation in general, it will help because your dog will listen better and 'hear' you more in those high arousal situations. What I do is I use an interrupting sound like "Whoa!" or clapping or something, to signal to my dog that I am there. My dog takes the play elsewhere or slips by my instead of crashing into me. Again, this is where the relationship/obedience piece will help.

Otherwise, I do use negative punishment. If he crashed into my legs when he was younger, I would do a collar grab and he gets a time out for a few seconds until he calms down. Note, this isn't a harsh punishment and I am not scolding, pinning, etc. I am just holding him and we hang out. Basically, the learning process for my dog is: If I crash into my person, I don't get to play anymore.

Also important... I REWARD collar grabs and I REWARD check-ins extensively and obsessively during the first few months so that my dogs love checking in with me, and have no aversion to being grabbed by the collar. I would not restrain any dog by the collar who does not have that background, as the goal is not to make the dog feel trapped and scared, nor is it to teach your dog never to approach you.
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Once we get home and he starts to make his mad dash for the bed I've started calling him back out and if he ignored me I've been saying "hey outta there!" Which he's been listening to. He's been a bit better but about waiting til I say it's ok to jump back up there.
He usually does a lot of check ins at the park since I've had to work on his recall so much since I got him. He knows if I call him or tell him to do something like leave it or stop barking at someone, if he comes over and listens to me quickly he usually gets his favorite bacon treats. If he races over fast he gets a lot of praise patting and his treats. If he doesn't the other dogs who race over get his treats and praise instead and he gets repeatedly called but I'm out of treats. You snooze you lose.
He was better today at the park after testing me more at the horses. We were there earlier than usual so all the doors were open and he really wanted to go explore outside. Kept trying to wander off. At one point he kept trotting off while I was calling him back and tuning me out. When my voice raised dramatically in drama, volume and tone he trotted back with tail happily wagging ("oh hey Mom you meant you wanted to give me cookies now? Ok cool, I'm here what's wrong?"!!!*"#$_&#@!?!).
He does lots of check ins and at home listens pretty well, mainly because there's no where to go and nowhere to hide lol. If he tries to ignore me and hide in his crate, I'll call him out and close the crate. At home he follows me around, sleeps on the bed with me, even waits right outside the bathtub while I shower.
It's new exciting places like unfenced fields and dog parks that my friends keep inviting me to take him and the stable where I'd love to be able to just have him loose everywhere even riding like my last dog and trust him to stay with me and come back. Plus the past couple of weeks he's been eating snow and ice at the dog park whenever he's loose and thinks it's a great game like keep away to run off when I tell him to drop it or leave it. I think it's irritating his ibd because he's had bad diarrhea ever since so I can't even clean it outside and nothing else has changed.
People have mentioned tethering on other threads. If I tethered him to me at the stable and places where he doesn't listen and acts like a teen thug, would that help him listen? He's sensitive but also very defiant. I don't think it would work at home because he already tethers himself to me with his separation anxiety and follows me so much, that's why I was thinking the places he's so distracted and drives me crazy by ignoring me or actively running off.

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