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Old 12-05-2012, 01:48 PM
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I'm looking at a new house to move into, and I'd have to put a hotwire on the bottom of the fence so Nola wouldn't slip out, since new fencing would be too expensive (at first). I think it would work for your situation.
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Our property in the country is most fenced with four rail vinyl, which means along along of it, there is room for a dog to slip out. We have hot wire along the bottom rails and do not have much of an issue with keeping them home, whether or not the wire is on. Like others said, after they realize the fence sometimes bites they respect it. That said, we still supervise closely and always know where everyone is. We also never leave them loose outside when no one is home or at night.

Make sure you ground the wire and that you buy one suitable for dogs. Most feed/farm stores have a variety of boxes for small animals/livestock up to cattle---the latter are not suitable for dogs. Keep dry plant material off of it, too, and make sure your dog cannot get caught in it.

Also, if you don't already, he could probably use exercise in the morning before you leave and also more chews, stuffed toys like Kongs, and treat dispensing toys to keep him occupied during the day. If he's happy in his own yard, then he really won't have much reason to want to leave it. Both will reduce boredom as well.

(Generally, I am in the camp of not leaving a dog loose in a residential yard when no one is home, too; my house in the city is fully fenced but the dogs always stay inside when I'm gone. I think it's safer to have them inside (crated or not) or in a dog run outside, but it's your choice and you didn't come here for that discussion.... I would suggest if you don't already to padlock any gates to the front yard.)
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Ditto on pad-locking the gate if the dog is going to be outside un-supervised (whether your home or not). There was an article in teh news just recently about a "rescuer" who was stealing dogs from yards and even houses and dropping them off at shelters as "abandoned" and "strays".

Personally as long as the dog has appropriate shelter and water, and the fence is made secure so they can't escape I'd rather see a dog allowed the freedom of the yard than be locked in a crate for 9hrs a day, especially a high energy dog like a husky thats likely to drive itself neurotic if cooped up for that length of time, regardless of how much exercise its given before crating!
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Personally as long as the dog has appropriate shelter and water, and the fence is made secure so they can't escape I'd rather see a dog allowed the freedom of the yard than be locked in a crate for 9hrs a day, especially a high energy dog like a husky thats likely to drive itself neurotic if cooped up for that length of time, regardless of how much exercise its given before crating!
Will add: safe enough neighborhood to not worry about anyone poisoning, feeding, teasing/taunting, or trying to pet your dog; your dog doesn't bark or otherwise annoy the neighborhood or violate codes; and locked to prevent theft or getting loose if someone (service/utilities) leave a gate open.
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Will add: safe enough neighborhood to not worry about anyone poisoning, feeding, teasing/taunting, or trying to pet your dog; your dog doesn't bark or otherwise annoy the neighborhood or violate codes; and locked to prevent theft or getting loose if someone (service/utilities) leave a gate open.
Points that have to be considered!
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I use a hot wire at the bottom and top of the fence. It keeps a whole herd of high energy, jumping malinois safely inside, and any unsafe critters and wander lust intact male farm dogs from entering. Works wonderful, can't remember the last time one was actually shocked by it. The dogs are much happier and more sane, by having the freedom to run and play when I am gone or at work than being crated.
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I work from 8-5 so yup, they're outside at least 9 hours. If we go out to eat after work they are outside even longer. I can't imagine how bad it would be for their joints to be kenneled M-F for that long their entire lives.
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I leave my dogs outside when I am home and I am not in the yard. I don't leave them outside when I am not home. I live in suburbia. Maybe if I lived in the country on a farm or something. Are you saying you leave your dogs outside and leave the house for 9 hours? Then yes I would say your dogs would be safer for those 9 hrs inside in a crate than left outside in a fenced yard. Especially if you're putting a 'hot wire' on the fence. Sorry.

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9hrs isn't even taking dinner into account. I have a half hour commute on either side of my work day!
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I work from 8-5 so yup, they're outside at least 9 hours. If we go out to eat after work they are outside even longer. I can't imagine how bad it would be for their joints to be kenneled M-F for that long their entire lives.
FMM, Don't you live on like 30-40 acres?

That's kind of a huge difference in situations between what many of the posters on this forum have. What works for some, may not work for others. As you know, there are a lot of factors to consider what is best for one's dogs....
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I've a 20 min commute. My husband gets off work 30 mins before me though so they average about 9 hours alone.

I guess it's not something I ever thought about before. I grew up in the "burbs" of Wyoming which isn't very burby. The dogs were always left outside when we weren't home.

I don't worry about people harming or taking my dogs. It'd take one hell of a person to try to steal one of my gigantic dogs out of the pack and they wouldn't go willingly. :P I guess my dogs are just a lot less friendly than most.

My sister and her husband leave their dog kenneled while they are at work and it does have back, hip and leg issues from being confined for so long. I'd think a dog left free in the house for that long, that often, no matter how well trained, would eventually start chewing.
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9hrs isn't even taking dinner into account. I have a half hour commute on either side of my work day!
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