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Old 01-05-2018, 10:36 PM
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Ive had Eddie for 4 weeks. He's a 9 month border collie.
Each week he's shown me a new skill this week, it was jumping 2 x 6foot fences, like they were 6 inches high.

He also jumps back over them, to come back, once he's run up to whoever is passing by, scared them silly, and perhaps their dog too.

We live rural, but about to move more rural. Meantime, im trying to manage it. Ive raised the fence 18 inches. Took me ages to plan it, build it, assemble it. Took Eddie 2 seconds to jump it. FFS!

He's certainly full of beans!
He shows no interest in leaving home, simply wants to say hi

he is of course, not supposed to be jumping, he's only 9 months. But 'rushing at' people, even if it is with your tail wagging, happy smiley face on, is illegal here.

I get the sense, no fence will work. any suggestions?
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Yep, I have a suggestion for your lil' escape artist! Two words... Coyote Rollers, aka Roll Bars

Here in the U.S. you can buy them from a company, not sure if they sell them in your country, but you can also DIY if your handy.

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My dog's a very talented escape artist. Jumped two six feet fences at once, opens gates, digs out, chewed through eight leashes, jumps out of my car. And he takes off as fast as he can and doesn't come back. I'm in a city and loose dogs are not legal. He's run in front of cars.

I wouldn't let your dog be loose and unsupervised at all. I wouldn't let him be loose with you until he's reliable and listening and not running off to meet other dogs. Keep him on a leash or long line. I had to chain my dog in the car because he'd chew through his leash and jump out. He also knew how to open the windows and stand on the buttons so I couldn't close them again.
Now he sits and waits in the car with the doors open until I say ok come out. Even at the dog park and exciting places. Otherwise he has to go back in the car and we start again. He can be loose some places and situations and pretty reliable but not everywhere. It's taken a LOT of time and effort. Every time I take him anywhere I'm constantly working on training him.
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I cant keep him on a leash. As hes escaping when i am at work. Fence with roller on: looks dooable! Will give it a go. Spent half day fixing fence hiigher. To watch him jump off the balcony down to ground level. A 15 foot drop! Borderline collie x flying fox. Im concerned that roller fence would ONLY work if the dog style of jumping is to touch top bar of fence. ?
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Got a call from vet. To say Eddie is there and they r feeding him treats. Nice reward! He went there 4-5 weeks ago for his desex. Must of remembered route?
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Hi shadowsmum. His recall is 100%. The legging it occurs when i am not there to recall. His impulse control needs working on for sure. Im playing "its your choice" games to work on this now. But 2 wks only of seriously training him. It will take some time. N then some lol
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Got a call from vet. To say Eddie is there and they r feeding him treats. Nice reward! He went there 4-5 weeks ago for his desex. Must of remembered route?

Yep, they have to touch the bar for it to work, basically have to jump up, touch the top of the bar and then get dumped in the yard. I think it might add 3 to 6 inches to the height of the fence. If he's jumping over and clearing the fence without touching it then the rollers aren't going to work.

I once got a call, at work, from the SPCA. I thought for sure I was going to have to bail Shadow out of doggy jail, but they were calling for the grooming place that was around 3 blocks from where I lived. Apparently Shadow had escaped from the yard and decided to follow a GSD and his owner, the owner ducked into the grooming place with Shadow and they had kept him while the owner and GSD made their escape. Shadow had a rabies tag and they called the number on it. Gotta love, come get your dog calls LOL

Anyway you can put up something around the balcony to keep him from using it to escape? Some lattice work, or hardware cloth might work.
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If I left my dog alone outside I'd never see him again. He'd take off in a minute.
Leave him inside. Harder to escape from inside, although still possible.
100 percent recall, you've got me and my little Houdini beat. He comes back eventually, when he feels like it, not when I call. Though he's improved a lot from the early days.
That's impressive your guy found the vet, and wanted to go back after surgery.
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OMG if I saw my dog jump off a balcony I think I'd have a heart attack!!! Yikes!!!

Bad enough seeing him jump two six feet fences together once and take off and disappear. I was like well I had a dog, not anymore. Then someone brought him back and I was both overjoyed and wanted to kill him lol.
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Question Cat-proof extension? // Overhead trolley?

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rather than coyote-rollers, i'd add a CAT-PROOF extension, which can also be DIY installed, with a purchased kit of parts.
Cat-proof fences angle at the top, either inward to confine, outward to exclude, or one set each - so "my" cat/s can be safely outside within "my" fence, & cats that don't belong to the household can't get in.

Angle brackets draped with woven mesh, similar to deer-proof 1-inch square mesh, is one nearly-invisible version.
U have to be mindful of both freezing rain & snow, as they can weight it down & rip the mesh off the brackets - dogs who are dedicated to escaping will quickly notice gaps.

Why not install an overhead trolley within the fenced yard?
It can be as long as the available space, & on a diagonal, that can provide a LOT of running room - it's L x W, so a 3-ft wide swath on a 10-ft long trolley is 30-sq-ft. A 75-ft long trolley provides an enormous space.

Just be sure it ends well-away from the fence - as in, 8-ft or more from the base.
And install both bumpers, to prevent him going around the end-posts & winding the drop-line onto it.

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